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Join Date: Apr 2013
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# 171
05-21-2013, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kyias1 View Post
I was going to take my Rom to the KDF side initially. It had nothing to do with consoles, powers or anything it simply felt right.

The constant complaining and whining in every klingon forum has really made me change my mind. I really don't want to play with a group that is so focused on these small petty things that they don't simply enjoy their faction.

It's getting ridiculous people.
good. stay over there. If you dont get it then stick with your feds.
Survivor of Remus
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 242
# 172
05-21-2013, 10:00 AM
Lets see what's been traded good for each side... This is just what trades where good nothing else

Klings
Receives AMS, ICC, and nadion detonator

Feds
Receives grav pulse, vent theta, and now PL

So it seems like its a 3 for 3 now
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Career Officer
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 96
# 173
05-21-2013, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by urniv821 View Post
good. stay over there. If you dont get it then stick with your feds.
Gladly. I would hate to play with a person who feels the game makes him not want to play anymore.
Captain
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,014
# 174 KDF Whiners
05-21-2013, 10:36 AM
Sheesh, all those whining about ONE frickin' console taking away an advantage from the KDF? Back in the AD&D days we had a word for people like you...."MUNCHKINS!". Only playing a particular character for the advantages it could give you.
Well, I have a piece of advice for you....DON'T PLAY!!!! If this burns your ass sooooo much, then just go away and find another game you can munchkin on.
Granted, this is coming from someone who cares very little about playing as KDF. I do it because the slot is locked for it, so might as well use it for that purpose instead of lying fallow. BUT, by choice I much prefer playing my Fed characters. And yes, just about all my Rihan characters will be Fed-aligned. Not because of any player, not because of any equipment, but because it's what I want to do.
SO again, those that are whining and complaining about this, while you're certainly entitled to your opinion, I don't really care to hear it, because it just smacks of power-gaming/min-maxing/ & munchkinism, not because it's honestly making things "less fun" to play a KDF-themed character.

And to those that are saying they LIKE playing as KDF, because they like the Klingons, or just wanted to try it, and found out they really like playing as them, "Good For You". That's the kind of thing I like to see, people having FUN with what they are playing. To them, Happy Hunting, and I hope enjoyment of your game time is yours!

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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 670
# 175
05-21-2013, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfpack12c View Post
Lets see what's been traded good for each side... This is just what trades where good nothing else

Klings
Receives AMS, ICC, and nadion detonator

Feds
Receives grav pulse, vent theta, and now PL

So it seems like its a 3 for 3 now
Cardie Lockbox - Graviton Pulse for Impulse Capacitance Cell.

Ferengi Lockbox - Theta Radiation for Photonic Displacer

Tholian Lockbox - Subspace Jump for Point-Defense System

Temporal Lockbox - Isometric Charge for Antimatter Spread

Dominion Lockbox - Bio-Neural Warhead for Nadeon Detonator.

Tal Shiar Lockbox - Plasmonic Leech for Ionized Gas Sensor

To me, especially with the upgrade to the Ionized Gas Sensor console and the fact that some KDF were complaining about not having any cloaking detection, the trade is just about fair.

The only Universal Consoles Fed has left that is not ship specific is as follows...

Enhanced Plasma Manifold (Oberth)
Grappler (NX)
Resonance Cascade Modulator (Steamrunner)
Tachyon Detection Field (T3 Nebula, the Tachyon Detection Grid is T5 Nebula specific)
Transwarp Computer (T3 Excelsior)

The Universal Consoles the KDF has left that is not ship specific is as follows...

Aceton Assimilator (Draguas)
Barrier Field Generator (Phalanx)
Magnetometric Generator (K't'inga Refit)

And the 2 new consoles for the 2 new KDF C-Store ships which I can't remember the names of.

I'm guessing that eventually Starfleet and the KDF will be trading these 5 consoles over 5 more Lockboxes.
Constant exposure to the same opinions leads to continual reinforcement of ideas until eventually, any challenge, no matter what form it takes, is going to be met with a disproportionate sense of outrage. Room for reasoned discussion can no longer occur.

Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,142
# 176
05-21-2013, 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfpack12c View Post
Lets see what's been traded good for each side... This is just what trades where good nothing else

Klings
Receives AMS, ICC, and nadion detonator

Feds
Receives grav pulse, vent theta, and now PL

So it seems like its a 3 for 3 now
I hardly even see nadion or impulse burst much, they aren't that useful. Nadion was nerfed awhile back so you can't make 3 shockwave torps, and if you are chasing someone with impulse burst all they have to do is turn, and KDF tends to be chasing more then running so its not so useful. Only 1 console KDF uses all the time, that is AMS, while I see Feds abusing those 2 consoles all the time, and I'm sure the leech will be near universal with them. Lots of Feds also use the subspace jump a lot, it will be used even more with low turn warbirds.
Captain
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Posts: 787
# 177
05-21-2013, 10:51 AM
Klingons are warriors not whingers, Do you still sing songs of the great tribble hunt?


Mirror NX, you know you want it

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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,142
# 178
05-21-2013, 10:53 AM
I'm not going to whine so much, but the gloves are coming off. I got in my tac B'rel, kept mining their spawn and camped the Feds at kerrat all day yesterday in protest over this nonsense and will be doing that all the time now. I also would go back to the KDF spawn and mine that right before reset. After that I got in my sci B'rel and kept sci spamming Feds while cloaked as they were about to blow repair hulks making them lose.

I can't take leech away from Feds, but can get revenge in Kerrat for them whining so much until they got leech handed to them.
Captain
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,009
# 179
05-21-2013, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
I'm not going to whine so much, but the gloves are coming off. I got in my tac B'rel, kept mining their spawn and camped the Feds at kerrat all day yesterday in protest over this nonsense and will be doing that all the time now. I also would go back to the KDF spawn and mine that right before reset. After that I got in my sci B'rel and kept sci spamming Feds while cloaked as they were about to blow repair hulks making them lose.

I can't take leech away from Feds, but can get revenge in Kerrat for them whining so much until they got leech handed to them.
Glad to see outraged Klink losing it over one single console...whereas all this time, we were told it's not OP at all because you know, after power insulator resist, it's not even 10 pts of power loss per subsystem.

So why all this anger & "protest"?

Wait, as an exclusively Federation captain, I can't contain my joy of seeing some Klignon going completely nuts over this - it would make their pacification that much easier and as well as Klignon empire's eventual subjugation.

Truth to be told, my pvp build has 144 in Flow Capacitors without using any dedicated FC consoles. It can drain about 80 in power combining both ES3 and Subsystem Targeting with the latter set up for 2 sub targeting at once. Effectively, I can drain up to 80 in power in two key subsystems simultaneously, say Engines and Weapons. With this new console for the Federation, this will be as close as 100 in power drain by a single player - again, without using any dedicated flow capacitor consoles.

As such, this will make a fine new addition to my repertoire, meaning more painless ascension for Klingnon whose ships will float lifelessly in space due to massive power loss.
Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 180
05-21-2013, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
I'm not going to whine so much, but the gloves are coming off.
[...]
I can't take leech away from Feds, but can get revenge in Kerrat for them whining so much until they got leech handed to them.
Sounds like whining for me.

Ah, get over it. It was bound to happen at some point anyway.
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