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# 121
05-21-2013, 05:44 PM
Like I said in the other thread...I was gung ho about LoR. Now? Lol, yeah - not so much.
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# 122
05-21-2013, 05:48 PM
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I'm not sure subnuke might be quite as devastating either. This clear just might include the subnuke debuff.
The way it reads...it's any debuff.

So consider those DCE/AtB EPtX(EPtX/EPtY) chains - how often they're being triggered and:

add the TT cleanse
add the ET cleanse
add the ST cleanse
add the HE cleanse

2s duration, 0.5s cycling

0s cleanse
0.5s cleanse
1s cleanse
1.5s cleanse
2s cleanse

Something like that, eh? 40% chance every...15s.

edit: Heck, with it being controls as well - could probably toss in the PH/APO "cleanse" into that as well..

...what doesn't this marvelous DOFF cleanse? Does it do windows?
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Maal, Klingon, Mogh - Vegar, Orion, Marauder - R'ebel, Romulan, Haakona
Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba - Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethean, M.Qin

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# 123
05-21-2013, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
The way it reads...it's any debuff.

So consider those DCE/AtB EPtX(EPtX/EPtY) chains - how often they're being triggered and:

add the TT cleanse
add the ET cleanse
add the ST cleanse
add the HE cleanse

2s duration, 0.5s cycling

0s cleanse
0.5s cleanse
1s cleanse
1.5s cleanse
2s cleanse

Something like that, eh? 40% chance every...15s.

edit: Heck, with it being controls as well - could probably toss in the PH/APO "cleanse" into that as well..

...what doesn't this marvelous DOFF cleanse? Does it do windows?
It's "De Viper." IDK why but I flashed back to a GI Joe episode from when I was a kid where they thought they had this intelligence asset that turned out to be a window cleaner with an eastern European accent. He shows up at the end after they've been miraculously busting Cobra based on what he says to "Vipe de Vindows."
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# 124
05-21-2013, 06:11 PM
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It's "De Viper." IDK why but I flashed back to a GI Joe episode from when I was a kid where they thought they had this intelligence asset that turned out to be a window cleaner with an eastern European accent. He shows up at the end after they've been miraculously busting Cobra based on what he says to "Vipe de Vindows."
It is a trip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyXrwbg1G7c
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Kopor, Nausicaan, Guramba - Nivuh, Ferasan, B'rel - Venit, Lethean, M.Qin
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# 125
05-21-2013, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
The way it reads...it's any debuff.

So consider those DCE/AtB EPtX(EPtX/EPtY) chains - how often they're being triggered and:

add the TT cleanse
add the ET cleanse
add the ST cleanse
add the HE cleanse

2s duration, 0.5s cycling

0s cleanse
0.5s cleanse
1s cleanse
1.5s cleanse
2s cleanse

Something like that, eh? 40% chance every...15s.

edit: Heck, with it being controls as well - could probably toss in the PH/APO "cleanse" into that as well..

...what doesn't this marvelous DOFF cleanse? Does it do windows?
Looks like Cryptic did it again, then. Honestly, every single time they release doffs with unique powers, one of them will be out of balance.

Not to mention some of us were arguing that this would be nice to mount on EPS Power Transfer...but no, they had to put it on the single most common Boff power in the game!

Science will be hamstrung badly once this thing begins to proliferate.
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# 126
05-21-2013, 06:12 PM
Yeah, virtually all those DOFFs are pretty harmless PvE DOFFs, or seem fairly balanced as they stand, no real issue so far.

The big one is that Warp Core Engineer (thank goodness you can only have one), but that fact that it is such a huge cleanse is worrying.

But I won't say that it puts SNB at risk. Because if someone is doing an EPTX rotation, they will almost always have at least one on a shared cooldown of some sort. Plus even if it procs, it only lasts 2 seconds. While powerful, someone has to be willing to give up a slot, which means they won't be using something else possibly.

On the other end, can the proc itself be SNBd off?

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# 127
05-21-2013, 06:20 PM
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Holy flashback! I really wish we could rename doffs.
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# 128
05-21-2013, 06:44 PM
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Holy flashback! I really wish we could rename doffs.
LOL Yeah, indeed. I'd love it too if it would say "De Viper viped da vindows vith Emergency Power to X"
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# 129
05-21-2013, 06:54 PM
If folks want to share any concerns they have over the WCE DOFF... Bort's taking feedback on it in that thread: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=690821

I'm still trying to get this out of my head:

Nero screaming, "CLEANSE EVERYTHING!"
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# 130
05-21-2013, 07:09 PM
No QQ about drain or any Sci power.

thx cryptic #PVPSarcasm
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