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# 32
01-19-2010, 09:13 AM
I noticed that my temps also go to 90C, but my game or system does not crash. This is horrible I bet you most of the players who have this game don't even know about this issue because they have no idea what a GPU temp is, or how to even check it. They're just playing along until one day their video card will blow up from all the stress.
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# 33
01-19-2010, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by f1seb View Post
I noticed that my temps also go to 90C, but my game or system does not crash. This is horrible I bet you most of the players who have this game don't even know about this issue because they have no idea what a GPU temp is, or how to even check it. They're just playing along until one day their video card will blow up from all the stress.
I have a GTX 295, which is NVIDIA's top-end card until the 300 series is released. It has two GPUs on one board, which creates more heat than a regular video card, but it has a cooler to match. My two GPUs are typically in the high 50s C when playing STO (ship combat or sector map), and peak at low 60s C (ground combat). I run the cooler's stock fan at 70% all the time while gaming. So this is no set to auto (which would get hotter).

But here's the interesting part. I currently play DDO as well and my temps are a little lower, with the second GPU being used much less. STO makes use of both of my GPUs fully. I run high graphic settings though no where near maxed (manually set) at 3840x1024 gaming resolution which is 3.9 million pixels. A typical gaming resolution of 1680x1050 is just 1.7 million pixels. Needless to say, I push my system quite hard to game at that resolution.

What does that mean and why is it useful to other members here? It means STO can be played without cooking your video card, even when under high demand. But not all video cards are going to have the same deficiency for their coolers as a GTX 295. This is why building a gaming PC is important. This is why your cooling layout/design is important. And this is another reason not to game with value line GPUs like the NVIDIA 7200, 7300, 7500, 8200, 8300, and ATI 1300, 1550, 16x0, 2300, 2400, 3200, 3430, 3450, and any built-in Intel (non HD) GPU as they just won't cut it. Those GPUs will choke with STO, even if you can "run" it in the loose sense of the term.

If you guys really want something worthwhile to game without breaking the bank, there are tons of other video cards out there that will fit the bill.

NVIDIA 7600 (lower settings), 7800, 79x0, 8500, 8600, 8800, 9500 (lower settings), 9600, 9800, 240, 250, 260, 275, 285, 295, and ATI 1800, 19x0, 2600, 2900, 3650 (lower settings), 3690, 38x0, 4350 & 4550 (lower settings), 46x0, 47x0, 48x0, and the entire 5000 series will work fine.
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# 34
01-19-2010, 10:55 AM
I'm sorry but I'm not interested in buying the inferior brand of Nvidia cards. Seems like most of the people with these problems have ATI cards, but the resolution should not be "Go buy Nvidia." That's bad "business", bad "game developing."
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# 35
01-19-2010, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by f1seb View Post
I'm sorry but I'm not interested in buying the inferior brand of Nvidia cards. Seems like most of the people with these problems have ATI cards, but the resolution should not be "Go buy Nvidia." That's bad "business", bad "game developing."
Nothing inferior about either manufacturer. Both ATI and NVIDIA have solid cards. It's the Intel GPUs I'd avoid. But let's not start any ATI vs. NVIDIA flame wars here. :p
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# 36
01-19-2010, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cipher_nemo View Post
Nothing inferior about either manufacturer. Both ATI and NVIDIA have solid cards. It's the Intel GPUs I'd avoid. But let's not start any ATI vs. NVIDIA flame wars here. :p
That's your opinion. But pretty much every benchmark and video game tests show otherwise. But one other "fun fact" I noticed is the quick response by the devs to the "Geforce stuttering problems" post, and virtually every ATI problem post is ignored. A dev was the 13th response to that post.

Starting my own conspiracy theory hmmmm?
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# 37
01-19-2010, 11:13 AM
Not a solution, even with maxfps to 30 it overheats
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# 38
01-19-2010, 01:09 PM
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Not a solution, even with maxfps to 30 it overheats
ok, what is your framrate without the limit at 30? If you are only pushing like, 40 fps with it unrestricted, then restricting it to 30 aint gonna make alot of difference, purley because your gfx card isnt capable and is running at almost max even to give you 30fps.
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# 39
01-19-2010, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by f1seb View Post
That's your opinion. But pretty much every benchmark and video game tests show otherwise. But one other "fun fact" I noticed is the quick response by the devs to the "Geforce stuttering problems" post, and virtually every ATI problem post is ignored. A dev was the 13th response to that post.

Starting my own conspiracy theory hmmmm?
wow...really?
he even put a cute smiley face and asked you not to start any flame wars, and what do you do...

ok - you like ATI...so what...enjoy your like and move on.

thanks.
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# 40 Heh
01-19-2010, 04:37 PM
Yup Enjoying my ATI 4850 with no video studdering or temp issues at full 1680 *1050 and full details. It's all about the cooling folks. Running a 4870 full blast with standard cooling isn't gonna get you anywhere. I put an aero S1 passive on mine and installed a case fan pointing at it and haven't hit 55c with everything running full.
I was having crashing issues but that was the server being unstable. Running an ATI at 70c is pure insanity. Either cool the card or don't play games like this. A proper setup is fundamental to gamming gear.
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