Commander
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# 11
05-31-2013, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by blafi View Post
Where exactly did you get that console cause it's not from the Armitage.

The Armitage comes with a Universal Torpedo Point Defense System. No mentioning of Photons. From memory it does something like 6 x 1250 kinetic dmg.

Nothing to see here, walk along.

[edit] And imho that console is a waste of slot.
orly? Look Again

Pretty sure it says "PHOTON Torpedo Point Defense System"

Either way the Nadeon will not affect it because strictly speaking it's not a "Torpedo Launcher".
Rihannsu
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# 12
05-31-2013, 08:36 AM
The TPDS may launch Photon's but it is a console, not an actual launcher, and that is what the Nadeon console is designed to work with.

You can try bringing it up to Cryptic, but don't hold your breath. The Photon Detonation Assemblies don't work with it either.
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# 13
05-31-2013, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by fiberteksyfir View Post
orly? Look Again

Pretty sure it says "PHOTON Torpedo Point Defense System"

Either way the Nadeon will not affect it because strictly speaking it's not a "Torpedo Launcher".
You linked to the NPC ship. The Heavy Escort Carrier we get does not say "Photon" it says [Console - Universal - Torpedo Point Defense System].

As others have said it's a console that happens to launch Torpedoes that are Photons. Not a Photon Torpedo Launcher.

The Nadeon Detonator now works with all Torpedoes BTW not just the Photons so the argument that it should stack with a Console is even more flawed. It upgrades a Torpedo Launcher not a Console that launches Torpedoes.

Nadeon Detonator

No matter how people spin the words as written it was only ever designed to work with a Torpedo Launcher ship weapon and not a Console. It is working as intended. And now that I know I can use it on any Torpedo Launcher if anything it's become better.
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# 14
06-03-2013, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by dknight0001 View Post
You linked to the NPC ship. The Heavy Escort Carrier we get does not say "Photon" it says [Console - Universal - Torpedo Point Defense System]
Uh actually the link does specifically say Photon Torpedo Defense System. Whoever developed this idea should have given consideration as to how it might work with other consoles.

Now if they wanted to change it to a universal torpedo point defense system and let you select the torp that would be a interesting twist.
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# 15
06-03-2013, 06:13 AM
The NPC ship specifically says "Photon Torpedo Point Defense System"
The Player ship specifically says "[Console - Universal - Torpedo Point Defense System]"
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# 16
06-03-2013, 06:28 AM
The TPDS from the Armitage does fire photon torpedoes, its damage is boosted by the consoles for photons. Nevertheless, it is not a weapon, it is a console that deals damage. It's not going to be boosted by another activatable special console, only by things that passively increase damage.
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# 17
06-03-2013, 06:50 AM
Honestly I would rather use armor consoles or energy-torpedo type consoles then these clicky ones.
Let us wear Swimsuits on Foundry maps or bridges please! I would pay zen for that.
Captain
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# 18
06-03-2013, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by arnthebard View Post
Actually it works on torp spread 3 which happens to be more than one torp. Not trying to be snarky but if it works that way it should work on the Photon Defense Module too.
Actually, my Mirror Vo'Quv is equipped with a nadeon detonator - and it has a global cooldown with HY and Spread abilities.

Also, multiple players have stated that the nadeon detonator only works with photon torpedoes. This was changed some time ago.
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# 19
06-03-2013, 09:52 AM
Nadeon Detonator is no longer restricted to photon torpedos, despite what the tooltip may still say. It can modify all standardized torpedos, and a select few specialty ones, into shockwave variants(Shockwave Tricobalts have something like a 5km blast radius). The torp defense system isn't a normal weapon - it's a console(it would be stupidly overpowered if you could fire that many shockwave torps in all directions like that).

Other things not affected by nadeon include things like the Hargh'peng, Rapid-fire missile launcher(torp spread works with it though), Rapid-fire and cluster Transphasic launchers. It does work with the reputation launchers though(dots from shockwave omega torps are nearly as brutal as the energy bolts - and has a larger blast radius).
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# 20
06-03-2013, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by szerontzur View Post
Nadeon Detonator is no longer restricted to photon torpedos, despite what the tooltip may still say. It can modify all standardized torpedos, and a select few specialty ones, into shockwave variants(Shockwave Tricobalts have something like a 5km blast radius). The torp defense system isn't a normal weapon - it's a console(it would be stupidly overpowered if you could fire that many shockwave torps in all directions like that).

Other things not affected by nadeon include things like the Hargh'peng, Rapid-fire missile launcher(torp spread works with it though), Rapid-fire and cluster Transphasic launchers. It does work with the reputation launchers though(dots from shockwave omega torps are nearly as brutal as the energy bolts - and has a larger blast radius).
They what?!

P.S. I think the rapid-fire transphasic torpedo wouldn't have much of a problem, as it's just a faster-firing regular transphasic. Romulan hyper-plasma, however...
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