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# 11
06-03-2013, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by nicha0 View Post
Most people seem not to be trying for Nukara marks, the grind is insane. I'm on t3 and wondering why bother?
This. I managed to get to Tier II then asked myself if I really need the other passive traits. Tier III passive is only worthwhile for Ground PvP, probably also Ground ESTFs but since they are not mandatory anymore no one plays them. Tier IV relies heavily on auxpower. You can check the expected bonus for your ship even before reaching this Tier by just clicking on the icon while in space. My bonus at ~50 auxpower was roughly +8 to all weaponskills. The actual DPS this translates into is so low, I wouldn't notice a difference anyway. Also I run an Aux2Bat build since yesterday, so my current bonus would be zero.

This is only worthwile for science ships like the Vesta. Everyone else can easily skip Nukara after Tier II, without even noticably falling behind in DPS.
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# 12
06-03-2013, 08:40 AM
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Crystal elite would probably help...if it wasn't broken.
Bah, I cant even get into Crystal Normal/Elite . I get autokicked within 10 seconds because of that stupid bug which doesn't put you into a team....
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# 13
06-03-2013, 09:09 AM
Honestly, I'm going to grind one character up all the way to tier 5 on Nukara, and so far its not too bad. I can usually find a group to do the hard missions each day on Nukara, and the mediums and easy exteriors missions are pretty easy if you stick to the edges of the medium area. So, only doing one character, its not that bad.

This idea with reps is one I follow for the others, I have one character that I got full T5 rep for Romulan and Omega just for kicks, I've got another one going for it since I wanted T5 Omega and I had tons of romulan marks from the winter event, so why not? And another character is only going for T5 romulan, due to Omega marks and I was going for a plasma beam boat. But the rest, I'm mostly letting them hang out. I might do something with other's, I have one who has 250 Nukara marks from the lobi and normal versions of the ev suit you can trade in, but yeah, not right now.

Then again, I don't PvP, so I cut out a large source of need right there.
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# 14
06-13-2013, 12:08 AM
Well it is true. There seems to be some lack of endgame contends to cover the Tholian front. Especially if u have multiple characters and want them to advance in the new reputation.
Here is a link what we do in OCD fleet to make the best out of it.

http://www.omegacombatdivision.dream...;topicseen#new

I think Cryptic has done an amazing job with the expansion in general (aside from some bugs) and they surely must be busy. I also find the multiple choices a good idea in those missions where it?s fitting. Perhaps some more stuff will be added on the Nukara side in the future. What I?d wish would be:

- one STF like elite/normal space queue
- one STF/Mintrap like elite/normal ground queue
- expansion of 6 more quests or so on Nukara to make a raid there worthwhile.
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# 15
06-21-2013, 04:55 AM
ok after skimming this thread i have to say, peoples estimates are a bit off for me, lets take one hour of gameplay into the picture. in that one hour of gameplay i will run with my fleet and we will make about 300 omega marks and about 200fleet marks maybe about 60 romulan marks if we are in the mood. in that same time if i grind nukara marks ill make about 45 at the very most, and dont even get me going about the crystaline entity.

so 45 marks vs a total of 560 marks, yea i would call that fair and even, if i was chineese

i did crystaline entity with a team of friends all seasoned players, i was of coarse in my fleet Tvaro, lovely ship. i died over 48 times. my experience was, fly in - die, fly in - die. after almost an entire hour we gave up and that super snowflake was at 41 percent. the whole experience sent my group off to play another game. either they were to pissed off, or just to exausted with the experience.

i went on to try a normal crystaline entity, thankfully i found its difficulty was pretty much at the level the elite was befor the patch. after completing it....... i got no marks. then after an infected same thing no marks. hey cryptic, how many times do you have to break everything else by fixing the little you do in your patches. i have never seen a game with so many bugs in it. it saddens me, i love star trek
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# 16
06-21-2013, 05:08 AM
I agree, we get absolutely squat in reward for our time and effort put into these damned projects...I can definitely tell who is rich "$$" and who isn't in this "game"
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# 17
06-21-2013, 05:08 AM
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ok after skimming this thread i have to say, peoples estimates are a bit off for me, lets take one hour of gameplay into the picture. in that one hour of gameplay i will run with my fleet and we will make about 300 omega marks and about 200fleet marks maybe about 60 romulan marks if we are in the mood. in that same time if i grind nukara marks ill make about 45 at the very most, and dont even get me going about the crystaline entity.

so 45 marks vs a total of 560 marks, yea i would call that fair and even, if i was chineese
so that is complete BS...are you sleeping for 45 mins and then get 45 marks in your "1 hour"??
cause thats what vault ensnared rewards you...in about 15 minutes

to get 300 omega marks in less than 40 min is possible, but on top of that grinding 200 fleet marks and doing the tau dewa daily...is well over an hour...

then in 1 hour i can do a little more than 100 nukara marks...still not that many, but since yesterday that number got signifficantly increased anyway.
40 - CE normal 10 minutes, sometimes even faster
30+5 - azura 14 minutes
around 40+3 - vault ensnared a little over 15 minutes

since yesterday CE elite is farmable anyway and rewards 80 during the 3 hours marks event...35 marks for both nukara ground missions, and i think they are not even on a daily CD anymore
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Last edited by baudl; 06-21-2013 at 05:13 AM.
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# 18
06-21-2013, 05:52 AM
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since yesterday CE elite is farmable anyway and rewards 80 during the 3 hours marks event...35 marks for both nukara ground missions, and i think they are not even on a daily CD anymore
Yeah the new changes CEE are very welcome.

80 marks is solid, and you can squeeze in a few of these during the event with how long it is now (I will admit its quite mind numbing).

Azure Nebula isn't bad, and at the least its over in a specified time regardless of how well or poor your team is doing.

I'll probably give the ground stuff a go over the weekend now that it's available through the queue.


I still think we are actually very light on "things to do" to earn each of the different marks, but this is at least some improvement for the nukara rep system.

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# 19
06-21-2013, 06:26 AM
If we're just talking about getting marks to cover the daily XP projects, I just grind hard during one of the bonus events over the weekend, and I'm set for the week. Probably never took me more than 2 hours to get the 300 or so marks I need to cover myself. I just bounce between clearing Easy and Medium exterior (plus any Zone Wides I happen to fill) on Nukara Prime and running Vault Ensnared. If I have a quick run on Nukara and Vault is still on CD, I'll fill in with Azure.

Yes, this is doing with only one of my three characters. I find it much less stressful to limit myself to only two reps at a time across all characters. My Fed is doing Nukara, my Rom is doing New Romulus, my KDF is doing nothing.

How will it be when I go to start buying Nukara gear? Probably kind of tedious. But, all those missions have a short CD, so you can grind them out hard and just get it done. No sitting around for 30 minutes because you already did ISE and KASE, and don't feel like wasting your time trying to PUG the other ones. Also, there isn't really that much I want out of Nukara as far as gear. I'm doing it to get the passives and the active power, a couple pieces of gear, then I'm out.

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# 20
06-21-2013, 07:41 AM
don't get the issue you can get over 100 marks per day if you do neb rescue like 4 times and since they take like 10 mins each thats half hours work

i'm on T4 2 toons and T3 on my other so its not mega work like you make out to be
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