Lieutenant
Join Date: Apr 2013
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# 1 MVAE or Vesta?
06-04-2013, 09:23 PM
So, I've been looking around the Federation Shipyards, but couldn't find a decent comparison between the MVAE and the Vesta. So, I figured I'd ask myself! (If I missed a thread, I'd appreciate being directed toward it)

Anyway, I'll start off by saying that I intend to fly this ship with my Science Captain, and I've no real interest at all in PvP. I've heard PvP is kind of.. unbalanced at the moment, but I've just no real desire to participate. So! The ship will be focused towards PvE, and considering the bias towards damage in PvE, I'm not sure which of these ships would be the better purchase.

The MVAE is, obviously, an escort with a heavy science leaning. It has an intriguing ability, though I've heard it is terribly buggy and not all that useful. It also has a fleet version.

The Vesta, on the other hand, has a hangar and those Aux Cannons.

So, I'm looking for some opinions from those who are more experienced with these two ships. Which do you find "better"? Which do you enjoy more? Which would you guys recommend?
Captain
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 2
06-04-2013, 09:36 PM
Since PvE is biased toward damage the MVAE is the obvious choice. It also gives the discount for the Fleet version, which is an even better damage dealer. That said, it is possible to get good DPS out of the Vesta as well, it's just more work, and you feel kind of weird since you have to sacrifice the whole science thing to get there. The Vesta does give some more flexibility though, since it can do solid science (well, as solid as science gets these days) or the damage dealing thing. I currently use a Vesta because I'm too stubborn to give up running a science ship as my main vessel, but I'd generally recommend the MVAE.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Dec 2012
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# 3
06-04-2013, 09:41 PM
I have run both ships and the Vesta is the better choice. Though, I did replace the Aux Phasers with other weapons. I would recommend getting the 3-pack simply for the options available and the consoles.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Apr 2013
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# 4
06-05-2013, 12:27 AM
Hmm, so one for the MVAE and one for the Vesta. Why do you feel the Vesta is the better choice? The MVAE seems to be a very straightforward, but the Vesta's power is a bit more unclear.
Rihannsu
Join Date: Dec 2012
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# 5
06-05-2013, 12:59 AM
I feel the Vesta is better because it can equip the Elite Scorpion Fighters which have a better AI than the separate parts for the MVAE. And you don't lose HP due to a separation.

While it may not have the weapon slots that the MVAE has, you can still build a DPS/Tank that will usually be able to perform very well in PvE. And, I've been able to stay alive longer in the Vesta than the MVAE.
Lieutenant
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# 6
06-05-2013, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jadensecura View Post
Since PvE is biased toward damage the MVAE is the obvious choice. It also gives the discount for the Fleet version, which is an even better damage dealer. That said, it is possible to get good DPS out of the Vesta as well, it's just more work, and you feel kind of weird since you have to sacrifice the whole science thing to get there. The Vesta does give some more flexibility though, since it can do solid science (well, as solid as science gets these days) or the damage dealing thing. I currently use a Vesta because I'm too stubborn to give up running a science ship as my main vessel, but I'd generally recommend the MVAE.
How is the Vesta more work than the MVAE? I've heard it has a lot of weird builds, and one individual claimed you'd have to respec a few times to get the most out of the Vesta. (Probably meant that you'd have to experiment, I'd guess)
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# 7
06-05-2013, 02:16 AM
Personally I'd take the Vesta over the MVAE.

The Vesta is a Fleet ship (10 Consoles better Shields/Hull than all standard Sci Vessels)

It's the best Sci ship in the game since it's so Versatile. If you really want an Escort I would suggest the HEC over the MVAE.

As for Science I built my Sci Officer around controlling so the Vesta would easily replace 3 of my boats and I don't need to shell out for fleet versions. Admittedly I'd buy the 3 pack but it's still cheaper than 3 Fleet vessels.
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# 8
06-05-2013, 02:37 AM
Vesta all the way.. most benefits were already mentioned so I just want to add, that you also can make a real "racer" out of her, too.. -> definitely the best/fastest ship for the "Tour".

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Captain
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# 9
06-05-2013, 03:21 AM
Vesta comes with shuttle pets, which in PvP means you have the ability to tractor-trap any BoP you can detect as soon as it's in engagment-range even WITH the upcoming fix to EPtA (thanks to the bonus Aux and the Vesta's being a Science bird!) it has subsystem targeting, it has sensor analysis, it can mount DHC's and it can set them up to run off high Aux, which means you don't have to switch around with your power as often.

It has a better shield multiplier than an MVAE, the only place it's 'short' is in weapons emplacements-but if you're running it right, you won't miss the extras that much, you'll be having too much fun making people throw **** at their screen in frustration (or keeping your team alive in Hive Onslaught!)

If you intend to spend, spend on the best-and the Vesta is right up there among the best you can buy.
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Captain
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# 10
06-05-2013, 03:36 AM
I tried the MVAE a while back before we got hanger ships on the Fed side, and it was that or the Dreadnaught. I really wish I had spent the zen on the Dreadnaught as I found the MVAE to be horrible. It is now just storage for me.

Now I finally saved up the Zen for the Vesta set I couldn't decide between the Engi or Sci version first so I decided sod it get the set. I have to say I am liking it so far, it takes a little getting used to on the cannons front from playing beam boats but I will get there on this. Even with that I am finding I am getting through missions faster on it than I was on my old Sci ship.

If you intend to save up go Vesta set, it is worth it in my opinion.
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