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# 51
06-14-2013, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jadensecura View Post
I've just read through this whole thread, and what I get from your description of your abilities, equipment, and tactics, as well as the way you're making your complaints, is that you just plain don't know what you're doing.
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At least this is confirmation that a phat wallet can't replace skill. Bad stays bad.
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# 52
06-14-2013, 01:46 PM
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Armitage just isn't that good to start with, sub par ship all the way around...
No, the Armitage is actually a very powerful ship. If you know what you're doing. It isn't sub-par in many ways if any at all. It makes a wonderful torpedo boat, and is a good ship overall. You just have a lot of really bad players flying them. Example being OP.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
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# 53
06-14-2013, 05:02 PM
It is probaby because you aren't use to it as it is bigger ship.It just takes some getting use to sure your bug might do lots of damage but so can this ship set up right.You do hve Point Defence onbroard to help out.It may not have all the consol sots you want but it does come with fighters which aid in the damage.

It take a bigger ship to take them a long so get use to it a lot like the t3 ship you had the heavy escort if you had it at all.

this happens to be one of my favourite escorts along wth retrofit Defiant and Patrol Escort.

I really like the bug ship along with the Jem Hadar heavy dread carrier best box ships I like other than the mirror and temporal.

Up there for once you and I agree on something.

To the OP do you even own one if so prove it.If so you wouldn't of ade this thread or you entirely yuck space combat.
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# 54
06-15-2013, 01:37 PM
With my recent experience, I think the real problem is this:

OP want something that can SOLO. as in he can go in any PUG, shoot and SURVIVE - survive is the key point. And he get the carrier because he expected to be a one man fleet

Everyone and their guides is about making sure they have high DPS, expecting that someone else will support / heal them.

Quite frankly, OP, after my recent experience, all I can say is this:
1) You are asking the wrong question at the wrong crowd
2) You are also playing on the wrong team. Fed is more about traditional trinity working together. KDF is where you would go to if you want to be a one-man fleet. (I still need to wait until schimatar come out to see if Rom can be a one-man fleet too)

I also do noticed that my standard armitage do suffer more recently, but then I realize I follow guides for DPS instead of survival. Change it back to my prefered setup solves the problem.

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# 55
06-15-2013, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jestersage View Post
With my recent experience, I think the real problem is this:

OP want something that can SOLO. as in he can go in any PUG, shoot and SURVIVE - survive is the key point. And he get the carrier because he expected to be a one man fleet

Everyone and their guides is about making sure they have high DPS, expecting that someone else will support / heal them.

Quite frankly, OP, after my recent experience, all I can say is this:
1) You are asking the wrong question at the wrong crowd
2) You are also playing on the wrong team. Fed is more about traditional trinity working together. KDF is where you would go to if you want to be a one-man fleet. (I still need to wait until schimatar come out to see if Rom can be a one-man fleet too)

I also do noticed that my standard armitage do suffer more recently, but then I realize I follow guides for DPS instead of survival. Change it back to my prefered setup solves the problem.
If you look at OPs setup to begin with, it's quite bad. And it's so clunky he limits his own survival and damage output. And he thinks it's the ship's fault, not player error. I really feel sorry for his ships and BOffs.
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# 56
06-15-2013, 07:27 PM
Figures that a noob that has luckily gotten the OP bugship cannot comprehend playing another well designed Escort

The Akira at any tier is a fine Escort, and if you cannot make that ship work, and this game being solely designed around damage and nothing else... you have issues in your gameplay knowledge of STO.
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# 57
06-15-2013, 07:29 PM
Fleet Armitage is a fantastic ship and has so many options for the ltcommander eng station. It's not the ship must be the player. I mean just off the top of my head:

EPTS, RSP, AUX2SIF

EPTS, EPTW, RSP

EPTW, RSP, DEM

EPTS, RSP, EWP

ET, EPTS, EPTW

EPTE, EPTS RSP

EPTS, AUX2BATT, RSP


There are so many great combinations and ways to take advantage of this ships layout. I only mentioned a few!


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# 58
06-15-2013, 08:06 PM
The FHEC has a lower shield mod than the JHAS, and in this game, shields are everything. Therefore, even with the same console types slotted, the JHAS would survive longer because 1% more shield hp and regen amplified by power level outdoes whatever you can squeeze out from that extra HP with your captain's SIF stat.

It?s more a symptom of how damn useful shields are and how pointless hull-tanking is.
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# 59
06-15-2013, 08:19 PM
Man, OP, if you didn't have that OP bug ship to fall back on I'd hate to wind up in an STF with you. There's nothing wrong with the FHEC, the bug is just the most ridiculously overpowered ship in the game. If you want something that's as tanky/maybe tankier than the bug but NOT the bug, get the Steamrunner. That's the only comparable escort as far as survivability goes.

Also, crew doesn't really mean jack. Its a neglected mechanic that the devs don't really know what to do with.
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# 60
06-16-2013, 01:57 AM
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Man, OP, if you didn't have that OP bug ship to fall back on I'd hate to wind up in an STF with you. There's nothing wrong with the FHEC, the bug is just the most ridiculously overpowered ship in the game. If you want something that's as tanky/maybe tankier than the bug but NOT the bug, get the Steamrunner. That's the only comparable escort as far as survivability goes.

Also, crew doesn't really mean jack. Its a neglected mechanic that the devs don't really know what to do with.
Not completely true. The Fleet Patrol Escort is barely less tanky, in fact I find it to be equal to the Bug in staying-aliveability (yes, that's a word. Deal with it).
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
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