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# 101
06-20-2013, 11:54 AM
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As I read these LCs I'm getting to know your Captains and crew. Keeping up with the differences is challenging but I am really enjoying seeing them progress. Everyone is doing a great job keeping Star Trek alive and well
Hehe...indeed true! And we get to see so many different ships and crews than what you would typically see on-screen

I admit, though, that I have a bit of a conflict in that the crew I have written about in the last three LCs (the crew of the Romulan Republic warbird R'uhuv) are challenging to write about as they take their first missions in service to the Republic, but I also have the urge to write about my in-game ship characters (the crew of the Terran ship Conquest and later of the Federation ship Dawnstar) as others have done with their own in-game crews. I've thought about keeping the Romulan crew as my LC entries, and try to do an independent fiction entry for the Terran/Federation crew, but I have to admit I am not certain I am a good enough writer to do justice to the story I've been putting together for the later for over a decade now.

So don't worry cmdrscarlet...plenty of us feel humbled to write here, and wonder if we're up to the challenge writing poses us.
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# 102
06-20-2013, 01:06 PM
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@marcusdkane and ironphoenix113: I suspect it would surprise Tobin to find out how Zizania handled the unwanted joining. I wonder if she has ever heard of a symbiont showing such respect and actually staying separate enough for there to still be some distinction between the two beings?
You bring up an interesting point here. Of course, it's also possible that it might sway her the other way and make her even more prejudiced because of the fact that Zizania couldn't have survived were it not for the fact that Bryan has a number of Trill in his crew.

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@ironphoenix113 - Bryan is the leader of the 1st? Isn't the fleet your actual in-game fleet? Anyway, I'm impressed by your fleet combat writing: its a change from what is expected and I appreciate that.

As I read these LCs I'm getting to know your Captains and crew. Keeping up with the differences is challenging but I am really enjoying seeing them progress. Everyone is doing a great job keeping Star Trek alive and well
Yep. How he got there in-game is a rather long story. I'm technically one of three people in the top spot, but one person is rarely on for unknown reasons, and the other has been busy studying to be a teacher, so I was promoted to the top spot as well. Anyway, thanks Glad to know that you appreciate my writing style.
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# 103 Anyone got the time...?
06-20-2013, 09:03 PM
Anyone know how much time we have left?
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# 104
06-20-2013, 10:04 PM
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Anyone know how much time we have left?
Until Tuesday, around noon PDT unless Bran decides to extend it.




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# 105
06-21-2013, 12:01 AM
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Voyager had a multitude of problems that we could sit and list all day and into the night, by the time it turned up Gene was long gone.
Unfortunately I think they copied the worst of TNG. :-/

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I have a suspicion that you may be somewhat right about the dichotomy between the ideal, and the actual-both for Starfleet AND the KDF.
Totally agreed on that. I mean, in my own works we find out that species discrimination is still alive and well in the ranks of Starfleet. Granted, some of that is due to the fact that Alyosha not only comes from a predator species, but also has the ability to move unseen and wield a powerful telekinetic punch.

But we know there are carnivorous species in Starfleet. And others that could easily kill members of a weaker species. Even the Vulcans qualify in that regard (ability to kill a weaker species). If a Caitian can be civil, and Orions and Deltans make themselves trustworthy among species without their pheromones and abilities, then on principle Alyosha should be treated the same way, but he is not. He must keep his nature classified to a small circle who can be trusted and that is able to see who he is and trust him.

The irony is, though, that his species also means his superiors do not discriminate against him in another way that I suspect the Federation would do to humans and the human-raised. But that is a matter not permitted for open discussion on the forums.
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# 106
06-21-2013, 03:51 AM
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You bring up an interesting point here. Of course, it's also possible that it might sway her the other way and make her even more prejudiced because of the fact that Zizania couldn't have survived were it not for the fact that Bryan has a number of Trill in his crew.
It would... It would serve to reinforce her opinion that the lives and knowledge of the symbionts is valued above the freedom and potential lives of the Trill hosts, as happened to Ezri Tigan

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# 107
06-21-2013, 09:09 AM
Here's another interesting question, though. I can't remember...did Zizania have a chance to give consent to the actual operation before it happened, or did the crew just go off of what they thought to be the best solution? Did Zizania choose this solution or have the decision to implant it in an unwilling host made without its consent? I wonder if that would play into Tobin's opinion at all if the result is now a symbionts with actual cognizance of the issue. Someone who might well lobby for measures to require explicit consent on both sides before a joining. Or make the Trill legally unable to override a "do not join" note on someone's medical record (just as you would obey a DNR order, or not harvest organs on death where no consent is given).
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# 108
06-21-2013, 09:40 AM
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Here's another interesting question, though. I can't remember...did Zizania have a chance to give consent to the actual operation before it happened, or did the crew just go off of what they thought to be the best solution? Did Zizania choose this solution or have the decision to implant it in an unwilling host made without its consent? I wonder if that would play into Tobin's opinion at all if the result is now a symbionts with actual cognizance of the issue. Someone who might well lobby for measures to require explicit consent on both sides before a joining. Or make the Trill legally unable to override a "do not join" note on someone's medical record (just as you would obey a DNR order, or not harvest organs on death where no consent is given).
I'll have to leave that part to ironphoenix to answer, but I recall that in Ezri's instance, it was a case of Starfleet feeling that the Dax symbiont (who was in medical stasis, following Jadzia's death) had information too vital to lose if it died. Ezri was on board, so Dax got 'installed', but I'm not sure how much choice she had, or if she was pressured into it with that old schtick about 'duty'... :-\
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# 109
06-21-2013, 10:06 AM
Right, I don't think Ezri had any choice. But I wonder what Dax's opinion of it was? I wonder if some of the confusion we saw in Ezri Dax wasn't just Ezri's, but Dax also being less than comfortable with what had happened. Maybe even seeing it as an ethical problem...or even feeling guilty.

It would be interesting to see what ironphoenix says about Ibalei and Zizania.
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# 110
06-21-2013, 11:24 AM
In this case, it was similar to Ezri and Dax, except that it was pressure from the Symbiosis commission that convinced her to join with Zizania.

As for how Zizania feels, I may delve a little deeper into that in a future entry, but for now I'll just say that he feels a little more comfortable with Ibalei, given that he expressed a desire to be joined with her when she came of age, but she never entered the program, instead heading straight for Starfleet Academy. As a result of Ibalei's choice there is some element of awkwardness, however they were a little more comfortable with each other than if they had been total strangers.
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