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# 11
06-14-2013, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sosolidshoe View Post
Why, because someone is daring to present history as anything other than a procession of dry facts to memorise? I mean crikey, that kind of head-shakery is even less appropriate here; we're talking about the Ancient Greeks, their entire conception of history was as a mythological construct, so why is it such an affront to certain types of academics for us to create our own mythological version of their history?

Man, if physicists were as uptight about the portrayal of our field in mass-market genre entertainment as historians, we'd never be able to watch anything - hell, we'd never even be able to watch Star Trek.
So, you are telling me, that the facts are too dry for your taste, so you need them to be skewed and jazzed up.

I enjoyed the first movie as just a comic adaptation, however I would rather see the Greek hoplites fully armored, and Leonidas not being the last to fall, (He died on the second day and the remaining day and a half, the remaining Spartans fought to defend his body to the last man) I have always hoped that the Gates of Fire by Steven Pressfield would be adapted, but I will still see this new 300 prequel, siquel, and sequel (its all three apparently)
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# 12
06-15-2013, 12:09 AM
The trailer looks EPIC!!!
I love to sequels to movies that begin where the original left off

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# 13
06-15-2013, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by eldarion79 View Post
So, you are telling me, that the facts are too dry for your taste, so you need them to be skewed and jazzed up.

I enjoyed the first movie as just a comic adaptation, however I would rather see the Greek hoplites fully armored, and Leonidas not being the last to fall, (He died on the second day and the remaining day and a half, the remaining Spartans fought to defend his body to the last man) I have always hoped that the Gates of Fire by Steven Pressfield would be adapted, but I will still see this new 300 prequel, siquel, and sequel (its all three apparently)
No, I am saying I have no issue with the facts taking a back seat to an entertaining story sometimes. There are times to complain and movies to complain about; U571, for example, is a ****ing atrocity - but this isn't a historical movie, it isn't trying to be a historical movie, it doesn't even present a vague impression of historicity, nobody with more than two functional brain cells is going to walk out of the theatre thinking they just watched a factual account of events(and the handful who are that moronic would never have gone to see an actual historical film anyway).

There are plenty of times I wish the sci-fi film or TV show I happen to be watching was a bit more "hard" and a bit less "handwave", but I'm capable of setting that aside if a bit of handwavium serves the narrative.

It's not the entertainment media academics should be stressing and complaining about, because entertainment media will distort almost anything in service of narrative, and most members of the public are capable of grasping that and don't put too much stock in it; it's the "news" media, the "infotainment" media we have to keep an eye on - essentially everything broadcast by the laughably-named History Channel make good examples of this point - because THAT's where you end up with people believing the pyramids were built by ****ing aliens, or every war in the history of mankind was won solely by 'MURICA.
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# 14
06-15-2013, 09:39 AM
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I have always hoped that the Gates of Fire by Steven Pressfield would be adapted
That would be awesome. Now that you mention it, I might reread the book again.


Still, I'll see this film too. It'll probably be spectacular and amusing.
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# 15
06-16-2013, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sosolidshoe View Post
Why, because someone is daring to present history as anything other than a procession of dry facts to memorise? I mean crikey, that kind of head-shakery is even less appropriate here; we're talking about the Ancient Greeks, their entire conception of history was as a mythological construct, so why is it such an affront to certain types of academics for us to create our own mythological version of their history?

Man, if physicists were as uptight about the portrayal of our field in mass-market genre entertainment as historians, we'd never be able to watch anything - hell, we'd never even be able to watch Star Trek.
really!? my ancestors history was a mythological construct!? they were eating with golden utensils when the rest of the planet was chewing on pine cones!
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