My GTX 285 sits at 77 degrees in an anomoly cluster in Sector Space...I don't overclock, my case is completely dust free, I have three 80mm fans and a 120 mm fan creating an upward airflow through the grill on the top of my case...the game is a resource ***** Cryptic just admit it and fix it.
oo yes devs . admit you have dune an outstanding job on this game.i love games that put my rig to work.
use that qwade cor power. and both gpu.
they have made an excellent piece of soft wear. 77 deagers is not hot . that is just perfect tep for that card
I used the car as a metaphor,sorry people can't understand that, and I use only the good parts, if you read what I posted above you will see that, and sorry I may not be as rich as you and get the water cooling system, or the tri athlon mega dominating your face CPU, and the Apocalypse your face GPU with the Supermans breath cooling system hooked to that, but I know for a fact my system is well put together, with the proper precision and research I can spend.
then something is still put together wrong. Any properly built system should not run with temps like that. You don't need water cooling and all that. Just proper airflow and proper fans. Any machine built should be built to be able to handle the GPUs and CPUs running at 100% for any given length of time. The fans should auto speed up to compensate to keep them within health temps.
I bet if you use the nvidia software and set your GPU fan to 80% or faster the temps will come down to 50 or 60c as well as incr the speeds of your case fan(s)
Yep. I think the real problem here is that some of you want to play STO but you don't want to have to build or purchase a system that can handle it. That's not STO's problem and you're in denial. If you wanna play, you gotta pay.
Just because you bought something 2 years ago, doesn't mean that it's capable of handling a front-line software without issues. Over the life of a component there are many factors that help determine the overall life of it and many of those things are directly affected by YOU the consumer/builder.
I don't care why you think you're overheating and it doesn't matter anyway. If you are, then you are. Plain and simple. It needs to be fixed. Because you think you know what you're doing doesn't mean you didn't miss something. It's completely presumptuous and arrogant to then say you know all and people with real world experience and training are ignorant. Instead of trying to bold face tell us you're a god of IT, why don't you instead ask for help. Show us some pictures of your tower, where you keep it, the inside of it, the specs on the fans and their CFM and RPM.
People like me come here to led our personal and professional experience to others who don't have that. All we get for that is people calling us noobs and trying to suggest that WE'RE the ones that don't know what we're talking about. This forum is mostly here for peer to peer support. Not just for Devs. Devs don't have time to address every single persons issues and that's why we come here to help. If you keep acting like this, then maybe those who can help will decide not to and then what? Where are you going to get help for your problem then?
EDIT: I have no problem helping people here for free. Otherwise, outside of here, I charge by the hour.
Dont forget there's another and FREE solution... people can turn the game resolution down, shadows off, etc.. a lot of the bells and whistles to take the load off if they are overheating... they just don't want to
But again, an overheating system is a sign of either a poorly constructed system OR a system that hasn't been properly maintained ... oh or overlocked w/o proper cooling
OMG a GTX 285 and you're complaining about 77C? LOL. Cryptic can't fix your lack of knowledge.
Something is wrong with your rig. I have 2 GTX 295s side by side and they never go over 50-60c in the game.. and I have 4 GPUs slamming away.
Now 77c is ok for that card, but it should be that high. Do you have all the nvidia software installed and do you have it set to raise the GPU fan as temps rise?
A lot of people with nvidia and ati cards just default and assume the card will auto incr the fan and or the system bios will auto inc the cpu or case fans.. this isn't the case in a lot of systems.
You actually have to install the nvidia monitoring software and tell it to set the fan at XX % speed at XXc... you can put it just "auto" mode, but like i said, some card manufacturers won't work properly.
then something is still put together wrong. Any properly built system should not run with temps like that. You don't need water cooling and all that. Just proper airflow and proper fans. Any machine built should be built to be able to handle the GPUs and CPUs running at 100% for any given length of time. The fans should auto speed up to compensate to keep them within health temps.
Exactly; this is the disconnect people have from reality. They come in and yell about how STO made there hardware run at 100% load, which resulted in it being damaged, and therefore STO damaged their hardware, whilst remaining blissfully ignorant of the fact that hardware is designed to run at 100% load.
Now, I think Cryptic has some coding issues to work out, and I hope that this game is a little lighter on these systems as time goes, as no game (even one beyond a computer's capacity to run) should be running components at full load like a CPU/GPU stressor would. That said, it is not Cryptic's fault that a computer cannot handle running at full load, therefore the fact that STO was the catalyst (and nothing more) for overheating hardware is not their fault, because in the end, STO is still doing nothing that a proper setup is not designed to handle.
I've hit the high system loads from STO, and have had the 1700 frame per second refresh rates on loading screens rev up my computer's fans a bit, but STO still doesn't get the CPU above about 47, nor the GPU above 65 (usually not above 60). STO is nowhere near as intensive as something like Furmark is, and even if it was, overheating wouldn't be Cryptic's fault, because a proper setup should be able to run Furmark for extended periods of time anyways. It's just software; it can't be solely responsible for hardware failure (again, short of overclocking routines that STO clearly doesn't have).
Exactly; this is the disconnect people have from reality. They come in and yell about how STO made there hardware run at 100% load, which resulted in it being damaged, and therefore STO damaged their hardware, whilst remaining blissfully ignorant of the fact that hardware is designed to run at 100% load.
Now, I think Cryptic has some coding issues to work out, and I hope that this game is a little lighter on these systems as time goes, as no game (even one beyond a computer's capacity to run) should be running components at full load like a CPU/GPU stressor would. That said, it is not Cryptic's fault that a computer cannot handle running at full load, therefore the fact that STO was the catalyst (and nothing more) for overheating hardware is not their fault, because in the end, STO is still doing nothing that a proper setup is not designed to handle.
I've hit the high system loads from STO, and have had the 1700 frame per second refresh rates on loading screens rev up my computer's fans a bit, but STO still doesn't get the CPU above about 47, nor the GPU above 65 (usually not above 60). STO is nowhere near as intensive as something like Furmark is, and even if it was, overheating wouldn't be Cryptic's fault, because a proper setup should be able to run Furmark for extended periods of time anyways. It's just software; it can't be solely responsible for hardware failure (again, short of overclocking routines that STO clearly doesn't have).
As I said in another post.. many machines won't incr the fan speeds. My last machine, a dell xps 710, had the fans (cpu/case) FIXED at 6% no matter what and the GPU at the time a 8800 GTX wouldn't auto incr either.
I had to get the nvidia tools and set up a profile to adjust my fan speeds. Now that is a bit complex, but a user can manually use the tools to just speed up the fans which is easy.. it might not be as quiet, but that's not cryptics fault. That's the fault of whomever built the machine should have put in less noisey fans
Although since then Dell has learned and now installed the nvidia tools so all new dell/alienware systems shouldn't have that issue I had a few yrs ago
Okay, moving the video card or lowering the clock speed on my ram didn't work afterall, just for a little while I wasn't crashing. Is it possible this might all be related to power supply failures? My video card wasn't getting much above 80 degrees, which shouldn't be cause for huge concern. Is the power supply not providing it with enough juice, perhaps? How could one tell?
My roommate sits behind me on a Dell Xps 720. A dual core system at 2.4GHz and a Nvidia GTS 250.
He runs the game at 2560x1600 with all settings maxxed except:
all shadows off
no AA, but AF 16
depth of field off
ambienent occlusion off
all the rest of the settings are maxxed..... and he gets about 40fps in space and 25-30 fps on the ground. He could havea LOT better fps if he ran in 1920x1200 but he refuses. He likes the high rez better at the cost of fps. His choice.
now... I've never heard his computer make much noise...
Since he got STO... I've heard this high pitch whine coming from his system. It's his GPU fan. I installed the nvidia software a few yrs ago on his machine when he bought it so it will always auto adjust the GPU fans.
Absolutely STO puts a load on his GPU than I've never seen any other mmo or game he has played
BUT his system does JUST what it should, incr the fan speeds... and his GPU never runs over 55c while in STO.
So... what's STO guilty of? Putting a HEAVY load on GPUs... is that an issue. ABSOLUTELY NOT.
It's up to the USER to either turn DOWN their game setting, clean their machine, or make sure their fans are auto adjusting to the temp. To be easier they can also just manually FIX the fan speeds before launching STO
Now, if I never installed that software, he would have played STO, his card would have over heated, and crashed his system (probably not killed it). One or two overheats shouldn't kill a card. ALL modern CPU and GPUs are programmed to shut off at a certain temp (although SOME will fail before that shutdown is reached because they are faulty). Keep in mind he has an "older" system although it does have Win 7 on it. My point was, back then Dell did NOTHING for fan management. Would it have been the game's fault if his fans never sped up because I didn't install that software? NOPE. DELLS FAULT for not putting proper fan control into the system.
Keep in mind the fan controls DO NOT come with the nvidia drivers!
TO ALL NVIDIA USERS (even if you don't have an nvidia mobo)... this is the software that will at LEAST help you regulate your GPU speed. Either manually or by telling it when the card is at xxx temp make the fan speed XXX %. For those that have an nvidia mobo, it will give you control of ALL your fans:
I'm also still running the W7 RC (build 7100) as well as hardware that is at least 1 year old and at the time was definitely not even middle of the line.
I'm not discounting those observances. I am however curious as to whether those system's specs that have observed these issues have been recorded by Cryptic.
There have been far too many observances of systems that would seem to have met the minimum requirements yet seem to have serious performance issues.
I have a Dell 720 as well, had 2x SLI 8800 GTXs in it. Had it for over three years now. A few months ago, I upgraded the video cards to a single Radeon 4890. Seemed to make a big difference in the games I was playing at the time, but according to Tomshardware, the 8800 GTXs together do better. Maybe I should swap back?
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