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Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 91
06-21-2013, 07:49 AM
I dont see the need for the defiant to have a battlecloak, i fly the fleet varient on my tac officer an its fine, I would however like to see the Aquarius get a battle cloak, bring its hull an turn rate in line with birds of prey and stick it on the zen store. I dont really see any use for the Aquarius atm feds have defiant, steam runner, fleet patrol an multivector all perform better than the aquarius, it has nothing that defines it.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 92
06-21-2013, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
The Raptor does require enormous throttle control to make it snap turn fast but you can not be within 5km of target and expect to keep a fast target in sight.

In comparison the Defiant turns like a sports car without the need to throttle snap to do ot. Its the definitive tight-turn champ, especially within 1-3km, and only a novice tries to out turn one in dogfight.

The Raptors may be the KDF escorts but they fly and play differently than fed ones.
Agreed. I've been flying a Hegh'ta (21 turnrate) in PvP and I can barely keep up with the Defiants half the time. Especially the ones chaining APO. I also have similar problems with the JHAS
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# 93
06-21-2013, 05:42 PM
the Aquarius just needs a better turn rate. 16 is extreamly silly on such a tiny ship. nothing has a 19 turn rate yet, give it that. it can be what the bug SHOULD be in game, agile but weak.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 94
06-21-2013, 09:01 PM
I think Cryptic has a plan.

Here is what I think needs to happen. The Defiant should not get a battle cloak.
1. It had to have a Romulan operator.
2. The Defiant was destroyed that had it.
3. The Federation has a treaty about cloaks
A. Does it say they wil not use
B. does it say they will not develop
4. Does the Kilngon faction have an equvelient style ship. If yes give it, if no don't.

Here is how you make the Federation players happy. In order to give the Federation a carrier the Catians had to develop it. The elite Stalker Fighters Have BC. (Even though the c store version does not). Why not let the Catian race develop a Bird of Prey style ship. Some type of Tier 5 battle frigat. Almost the same stats as a Bird of Prey but with more fixed bridge officer stations. The fixed bridge officer stations would allow the Catian ship to have a third aft weapon. This is only an idea and can be debated because there might be something I did not think about.
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Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 95
06-22-2013, 04:06 AM
if the defient gets a battle cloak I want the 43k hull the defient has on my brel bop that's fair isn't it?
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# 96
06-22-2013, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by retrosrages View Post
if the defient gets a battle cloak I want the 43k hull the defient has on my brel bop that's fair isn't it?
To be honest I'm sure that as soon as the Feds get the Battle Cloak, they will set their sights on the OP universals.
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Posts: 225
# 97
06-22-2013, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by drkfrontiers View Post
To be honest I'm sure that as soon as the Feds get the Battle Cloak, they will set their sights on the OP universals.
and in what way is having 4 universal boffs (brel) op to having 5 boffs slots that on the defient? in pvp there isn't much room for an escort to change there set up most all run the same set up anyway, the brel has 30k hull and 6k shields tops the defient can get 44k hull and 10k shields
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 783
# 98
06-22-2013, 07:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by simeion1 View Post
I think Cryptic has a plan.

Here is what I think needs to happen. The Defiant should not get a battle cloak.
1. It had to have a Romulan operator.
2. The Defiant was destroyed that had it.
3. The Federation has a treaty about cloaks
A. Does it say they wil not use
B. does it say they will not develop
4. Does the Kilngon faction have an equvelient style ship. If yes give it, if no don't.

Here is how you make the Federation players happy. In order to give the Federation a carrier the Catians had to develop it. The elite Stalker Fighters Have BC. (Even though the c store version does not). Why not let the Catian race develop a Bird of Prey style ship. Some type of Tier 5 battle frigat. Almost the same stats as a Bird of Prey but with more fixed bridge officer stations. The fixed bridge officer stations would allow the Catian ship to have a third aft weapon. This is only an idea and can be debated because there might be something I did not think about.

One problem with the Treaty of Algeron: It was made with the Romulan Star Empire, a polity which is essentially defunct at the end of the romulan storyline. So the feds can totally make and use cloaks at this point.
Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,368
# 99
06-22-2013, 08:04 AM
More Feds crying about everything and wanting an "I win" button. No bc for Defiant as it already does 1) top damage and 2) tanks likes a beast.

I know because I fly defiant, BoP and t'varo. If defiant gets a battle cloak it should lose 1 tac console, 1 aft weapons slot 10k of armor. Then Feds can then experience just how "overpowered" BoP really are.
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# 100
06-22-2013, 08:18 AM
If the Defiant was to get a Battle Cloak option, it should be in the form of a console that applies negative effects to shields, hull and the like. Battle Cloak isn't inherently over powered but it is a lot of fun. A lot worse has been done to this game than BC on a Defiant could ever do.

BC also isn't the only thing that makes a BoP what it is. Stripping it of hull, a console (which it already gives up equip cloak at all) and a weapon slot still doesn't make it a BoP clone.
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