Commander
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# 101
06-22-2013, 08:56 AM
I want a battlecloak on my Ferengi Marauder
That would be awesome robbing ships while on cloak.
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# 102
06-23-2013, 08:34 PM
I support this thread.

Master Ice has spoken.
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# 103
06-26-2013, 05:51 AM
Non-battle cloak is silly anyway. all cloak should be usable in battle. It was always that way in Star Trek. I know this game has not much to do with Star Trek anymore, but still... And for the romulan cloak, all should know, that Romulans are who made the cloaking device, even TOS klingon ships are romulan. Romulans traded ships and cloaking tech to klingons, federation stole it. And in Defiant, they used a romulan cloaking device, supervised by a romulan. So Romulan Cloak should be best, Klingon should be not that good, and feds... well they was always OP in star trek, maybe its time that in this game they shall not be that. And in STO since some Romulans are allied with feds, they could have romulan cloaks. Maybe a console, usable by all ships. Why console? Because i know many would cry about it like "CLOAK was unique for klingons, then defiant had it." and then "BATTLE CLOAK was unique to klingons now romulans got it" But silly ppl who saying that, doesnt know, the fact that klingons was first even dumb to build starships, not speaking of cloak, so basicaly klingon space tech is based on romulan space tech. And feds knew how to build cloaking device since TNG, thats sure.
So if it would be a console, not all feds would give up console space for cloak (hopefully). As noone want to play again a cloak vs cloak fights like kvk... who gets boring first decloaking...
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# 104
06-26-2013, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mimey2 View Post
Only if BoPs no longer have to pay such high costs for shields and hull, should the Defiant be given a BC. If all Romulan ships and the Defiant can all have BCs for very little given, then so should a BoP.
And this only, if BoP will trade the silly universal boff stations to fixed ones. maybe 1 uni. Then BoP can have more hps alright? Or wait. All ships could have uni stations, and then BoP can get more hps. Will a BoP give up that advantage? Then yes.
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# 105
06-26-2013, 06:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kylephoenix3 View Post
Non-battle cloak is silly anyway. all cloak should be usable in battle. It was always that way in Star Trek. I know this game has not much to do with Star Trek anymore, but still... And for the romulan cloak, all should know, that Romulans are who made the cloaking device, even TOS klingon ships are romulan. Romulans traded ships and cloaking tech to klingons, federation stole it. And in Defiant, they used a romulan cloaking device, supervised by a romulan. So Romulan Cloak should be best, Klingon should be not that good, and feds... well they was always OP in star trek, maybe its time that in this game they shall not be that. And in STO since some Romulans are allied with feds, they could have romulan cloaks. Maybe a console, usable by all ships. Why console? Because i know many would cry about it like "CLOAK was unique for klingons, then defiant had it." and then "BATTLE CLOAK was unique to klingons now romulans got it" But silly ppl who saying that, doesnt know, the fact that klingons was first even dumb to build starships, not speaking of cloak, so basicaly klingon space tech is based on romulan space tech. And feds knew how to build cloaking device since TNG, thats sure.
So if it would be a console, not all feds would give up console space for cloak (hopefully). As noone want to play again a cloak vs cloak fights like kvk... who gets boring first decloaking...
What is this? Revisionist history?

The Romulans bought the D7 from the Klingons for the cloaking tech.
It's even explicitly stated in the episode this was from "Romulans now using Klingon design".
And the Enterprise was also unable to outrun the Romulan D7 at the end of the episode.
The Romulans were the ones who could not build decent ships, not the Klingons.
Do you actually watch Star Trek or do you just invend stuff on the fly?
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# 106
06-26-2013, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by misterde3 View Post
What is this? Revisionist history?

The Romulans bought the D7 from the Klingons for the cloaking tech.
It's even explicitly stated in the episode this was from "Romulans now using Klingon design".
And the Enterprise was also unable to outrun the Romulan D7 at the end of the episode.
The Romulans were the ones who could not build decent ships, not the Klingons.
Do you actually watch Star Trek or do you just invend stuff on the fly?
"Balance of Terror"
The Romulans built the first cloaking device, not the Klingons.

But yes, according to other available info, the Rom's did use terribly bad ships in the Fed/Rom war, that still somehow did well for them, but the first Warbirds, and getting the Klin D-7 cruisers were definately an improvement for them.

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# 107
06-26-2013, 10:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kylephoenix3 View Post
Non-battle cloak is silly anyway. all cloak should be usable in battle. It was always that way in Star Trek. I know this game has not much to do with Star Trek anymore, but still... And for the romulan cloak, all should know, that Romulans are who made the cloaking device, even TOS klingon ships are romulan. Romulans traded ships and cloaking tech to klingons, federation stole it. And in Defiant, they used a romulan cloaking device, supervised by a romulan. So Romulan Cloak should be best, Klingon should be not that good, and feds... well they was always OP in star trek, maybe its time that in this game they shall not be that. And in STO since some Romulans are allied with feds, they could have romulan cloaks. Maybe a console, usable by all ships. Why console? Because i know many would cry about it like "CLOAK was unique for klingons, then defiant had it." and then "BATTLE CLOAK was unique to klingons now romulans got it" But silly ppl who saying that, doesnt know, the fact that klingons was first even dumb to build starships, not speaking of cloak, so basicaly klingon space tech is based on romulan space tech. And feds knew how to build cloaking device since TNG, thats sure.
So if it would be a console, not all feds would give up console space for cloak (hopefully). As noone want to play again a cloak vs cloak fights like kvk... who gets boring first decloaking...
You are an idiot if you believe what you say about the klingons not being able to build starships.

You are even wrong about the Romulans capability to build starships.
Way wrong.

The Romulans had ships with cloaking but no warp drives.
The klingons had D7s without cloaks but with warp drives.
They swapped technology and ships.
That is why the Klingons have cloaks and the Romulans have warp capability.
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# 108
06-26-2013, 10:59 AM
while i do agree the fleet defiant is underpowered, giving it a bc isnt the solution, for me the solution for it is increase its shield mod to 0.99 like other fleet escorts
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# 109
06-26-2013, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bitemepwe View Post
You are an idiot if you believe what you say about the klingons not being able to build starships.

You are even wrong about the Romulans capability to build starships.
Way wrong.

The Romulans had ships with cloaking but no warp drives.
The klingons had D7s without cloaks but with warp drives.
They swapped technology and ships.
That is why the Klingons have cloaks and the Romulans have warp capability.
Ehhh...this time I agree with Roach...he's completely right proving to be an expert on the Star Trek Universe!
Now...about the idiot...maybe you made him angry!
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# 110
06-26-2013, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by starwrathforever View Post
Ehhh...this time I agree with Roach...he's completely right proving to be an expert on the Star Trek Universe!
Now...about the idiot...maybe you made him angry!
Idiot may have been too harsh a word, but someof the "player" invented history to trash the Klingons borders on the absurd
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