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Career Officer
Join Date: Nov 2012
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Does anyone know why as a Romulan (FED) Vice Admiral I cannot access my C-store purchased FED ships?

Seems Racist. Or is Starfleet Security thinking that our limited selection of warbirds should be sufficient?

Only C-store ships of Captain rank or lower are available. Purchaced ships of higher rank are not available.
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# 2
06-19-2013, 01:50 PM
Originally the Romulans were going to be able to fly more allied ships, but there was a huge community backlash over this. So Cryptic changed it so that Romulans could only fly Captain level and below from their allies. The In Character explanation is that the allies aren't entirely sold on the idea of arming the Romulan Republic with their newest and best technologies, only to have it potentially used against them. The Out Of Character reason is that, if the Romulans could fly every ship in the game, why would you ever play Federation or Klingon again?

Short answer? You're Romulan. Romulans fly warbirds.

This character is why I don't play my Romulan any more. Tovan Khev is NOT my BFF! Get him off my bridge!
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# 3
06-20-2013, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by diotw View Post
Originally the Romulans were going to be able to fly more allied ships, but there was a huge community backlash over this. So Cryptic changed it so that Romulans could only fly Captain level and below from their allies. The In Character explanation is that the allies aren't entirely sold on the idea of arming the Romulan Republic with their newest and best technologies, only to have it potentially used against them. The Out Of Character reason is that, if the Romulans could fly every ship in the game, why would you ever play Federation or Klingon again?

Short answer? You're Romulan. Romulans fly warbirds.
yep. i remember the big uproar when it was announced rom's get access to allied Fleet ships.
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# 4
06-20-2013, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dunballa View Post
Does anyone know why as a Romulan (FED) Vice Admiral I cannot access my C-store purchased FED ships?

Seems Racist. Or is Starfleet Security thinking that our limited selection of warbirds should be sufficient?

Only C-store ships of Captain rank or lower are available. Purchaced ships of higher rank are not available.
Racist? You kidding?
Yeah, let the Romulans in this game fly ALL the ships in the entire game while Starfleet is limited to Starfleet ships and the KDF is limited to KDF ships.
It's a sure way to remove the need to play anything other than Romulans in this game.
Brilliant.

When you bought those ships, the text explicitly said they're unlocked for your Federation characters.
And Cryptic was nice enough to allow them to be used on your Romulan allied characters...and you call this racist?

Oh, BTW at launch the Feds had 6 ships at max level (Assault&Star Cruiser, DSSV&RSV, Patrol&Advanced Escort) while the KDF had 4 (Negh'var, Qin, Vo'quv, Hegh'ta).
The Romulans have 7.
So what do you call "limited" and "racist" when the Romulans, while brand-new, surpass both?

Last edited by misterde3; 06-20-2013 at 12:15 PM.
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# 5
06-20-2013, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by misterde3 View Post
Racist? You kidding?
Yeah, let the Romulans in this game fly ALL the ships in the entire game while Starfleet is limited to Starfleet ships and the KDF is limited to KDF ships.
It's a sure way to remove the need to play anything other than Romulans in this game.
Brilliant.

When you bought those ships, the text explicitly said they're unlocked for your Federation characters.
And Cryptic was nice enough to allow them to be used on your Romulan allied characters...and you call this racist?

Oh, BTW at launch the Feds had 6 ships at max level (Assault&Star Cruiser, DSSV&RSV, Patrol&Advanced Escort) while the KDF had 4 (Negh'var, Qin, Vo'quv, Hegh'ta).
The Romulans have 7.
So what do you call "limited" and "racist" when the Romulans, while brand-new, surpass both?
Romulans have 3, unless you count level 50 C-store ships, at which point you have to count all the C-store ships the other two have as well; the only free t5 ships are the Ha'apax, Ha'nom, and Ha'feh. If you want to count the T'varo, Mogai, Dhalen, and D'deridex retrofits and the Haakona, you'd have to count the Armitage, Atrox, Regent, Vesta, Oddy, etc....
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# 6
06-20-2013, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by whytelyon View Post
Romulans have 3, unless you count level 50 C-store ships, at which point you have to count all the C-store ships the other two have as well; the only free t5 ships are the Ha'apax, Ha'nom, and Ha'feh. If you want to count the T'varo, Mogai, Dhalen, and D'deridex retrofits and the Haakona, you'd have to count the Armitage, Atrox, Regent, Vesta, Oddy, etc....
You're forgetting there were literally only those ships since the VA rank didn't even exist.
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# 7
06-20-2013, 01:26 PM
Why do we have to explain this every other day since May 21-st?!?

Yes, OP, the Starfleet are racist that way. *facepalm*
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# 8
06-20-2013, 02:03 PM
I forsee a lot of rom and fed ships being released for a while to cash in on their newness (well, new Tier 1-2 ships for KDF) while not that many fed ships


And if your going to compare the number of At Launch rom ships, you should compare it to the number of At launch ships for the other factions. Cstore ships added after launch dont count of course. because its unfair to count a new faction against 3 years worth of ship additions for other factions.

So for KDF and Fed: All level 50 only ships would be removed from that count, as level 40 was the cap back then. and not counting fleet ships.

So, not counting the different ship skins, Fed had 6 T5 ships, 3 ships each for T 2,3 and 4, and 1 at T1. for 16 ships.

When klingons originally came out, they had a slightly smaller list, if i count correctly, they had 14 ships at launch, maybe even less.

Roms, not counting refits/retorfits and fleet ships, have 8 completely free ships to pick from. now if you want to include refits, retrofits and fleet ships (since they were all in at launch of romulan faction) that number jumps up to..... 23 ships. 26 if you want to include the mirror ships

This is also not including any ships added in after launch, nor small ships.


If you want to include those ships (added in after launch, plus shuttles). the end count is Feds: 97 ships, if you only consider the 3 packs one ship (despite different layouts for the variants) its still 90 ships. KDF gets : 67 (64 without multiships counting as several) Roms: 29 ships.

number of cross faction ships available to all three factions : 13.


so yes, romulan ships are lacking when adding in all the content seen AFTER the launch of said factions, but when you compare day 1 of Fed/KDF against Day 1 of romulans, they faired pretty well.
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Last edited by tenkari; 06-20-2013 at 02:10 PM.
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# 9
06-20-2013, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by whytelyon View Post
Romulans have 3, unless you count level 50 C-store ships, at which point you have to count all the C-store ships the other two have as well; the only free t5 ships are the Ha'apax, Ha'nom, and Ha'feh. If you want to count the T'varo, Mogai, Dhalen, and D'deridex retrofits and the Haakona, you'd have to count the Armitage, Atrox, Regent, Vesta, Oddy, etc....
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Originally Posted by misterde3 View Post
You're forgetting there were literally only those ships since the VA rank didn't even exist.
And even if you count from season 1 "Genesis" when the raised the level cap to 50, the C-Store ships had yet to be released (the Defiant, Galaxy, and Intrepid. The Galaxy X was a ship limited to player recruiters). The Klingons didn't even have a T5 Vor'cha yet! Apples to oranges, dude. Romulan characters are starting out of the gate in a much better position than Klingons.

I would call you a troll, but I know better. And Devs wonder why so many veteran/lifetime members complain about the game going into the crapper after F2P. Paid subscription kept the rifraf and rabble out of the game.
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# 10
06-25-2013, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by davidwford View Post
And even if you count from season 1 "Genesis" when the raised the level cap to 50, the C-Store ships had yet to be released (the Defiant, Galaxy, and Intrepid. The Galaxy X was a ship limited to player recruiters). The Klingons didn't even have a T5 Vor'cha yet! Apples to oranges, dude. Romulan characters are starting out of the gate in a much better position than Klingons.

I would call you a troll, but I know better. And Devs wonder why so many veteran/lifetime members complain about the game going into the crapper after F2P. Paid subscription kept the rifraf and rabble out of the game.

honestly i find what you say about us f2p players very offensive and second cryptic could have taken alittle more time before launch and added a bit more rather then runing with the same old gimmick pwe uses in all there games
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