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# 1 recount of KDF pop?
10-07-2013, 12:05 AM
So, Cryptic/PWE, could we have a recount of the KDF population?
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# 2
10-07-2013, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jmaster29 View Post
So, Cryptic/PWE, could we have a recount of the KDF population?
What are your parameters for what constitutes as the KDF population?

Number of gold members with accounts that have a KDF character?

Number of gold members with accounts that have a KDF character at level 50? If not, then at what level?

Would you count each KDF character on an account or simply the account itself for having a KDF character on it? Would each KDF character have to be logged in for a certain period of time? Would you include Romulan characters in this who are allied with the KDF or intending to be allied with the KDF?

Number of silver members with accounts that have a KDF character? At level 1 or level 50?

Would you include the number of characters an account has, or simply the KDF characters alone? Would this include gold or silver members?

If you include silver members, would you count the ones who didn't spend money on the game?

What about when they last logged in? At what point in time would you start the census for the KDF population?

How many hours/days/weeks must a KDF character be actively online and playing to count?

Would you simply count prime playing hours? If so, would you discount european players whose hours are different from the continental U.S.?

Would you count KDF players who stopped playing but are/were active on the forums? If so, at what point in time would that census start?

Would you include KDF players who don't PvP?

Would you discount KDF players who only log on for a few hours to get their 8k dilithium and then log out immediately after?

Keep in mind, it's normally an MMO's policy to keep player numbers secret, so asking for a census is generally regarded as rhetoric. Whenever numbers are released, it's generally skewed in favor of said MMO based on certain parameters I mentioned. This isn't a Cryptic/PWE thing, this is a game industry thing.
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# 3
10-07-2013, 01:09 AM
I'd settle for whatever parameters Cryptic/PWE used when they came up with their now "famous/infamous" 18% figure when describing how much of the player-base was KDF. I don't need to know what those parameters are.
I'm only curious because my fleet is called 18 Percent and I wonder if I should rename
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# 4
10-07-2013, 01:39 AM
There's no point in it-no matter what comes out, it won't change Cryptic's behaviour.

At least, not in a direction that balances the factions or provides KDF customers with something..you know..KDF to buy.
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# 5
10-07-2013, 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by drowrulesupreme View Post
I'd settle for whatever parameters Cryptic/PWE used when they came up with their now "famous/infamous" 18% figure when describing how much of the player-base was KDF. I don't need to know what those parameters are.
I'm only curious because my fleet is called 18 Percent and I wonder if I should rename
Fair enough. I wouldn't mind hearing an update on that either.
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# 6
10-07-2013, 09:06 AM
I wonder how KDF aligned Romulans would factor into population counts now, that said I very much doubt it will change the devs attitude of ''KDF? Whats that ?''
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# 7
10-07-2013, 09:45 AM
They should count every account that has an actively played KDF or KDF-Rom toon, even if its just a fed KDF farm toon.
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# 8
10-07-2013, 10:14 AM
There is no such answer that makes sense.

100 percent of people play kdf at some point

As a main? How do you do define "main"? If a kdf is played 45% of the time is it disqualified?

IMHO a good way of doing it is: How many kdf vs how many fed did the crystalline entity?

But I dunno
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# 9
10-07-2013, 10:31 AM
This makes sense...

In the last fiscal month....

Total Fed plus Fed/Rom played hours divided by total overall played hours*100 = Total Fed Percentage

and

Total KDF plus KDF/Rom played hours divided by total overall played hours*100 = Total KDF Percentage

This will give us a ratio of KDF hours to Fed hours which excludes counting total players, but showing how active each faction is...

Perhaps a month to month median or mean might also help to show trend analysis.

We know they keep track of this because of the /played command per character.
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# 10
10-07-2013, 11:38 AM
Cryptic is fully capable of defining what Active means, though TFomega's idea seems less likely to fall into bias. Go with it.
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