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Ok, there are some old threads but the rules dictate a new thread is to be created.

I currently have oddy 3 pack after the sale just to try it out. I am an Eng Healer in PvP and relish the role. i am debating between the Science and Operations versions of the ship.

The advantage I see is the Science has the sensor analysis at the expense of an Eng console. So the big question is, can i heal friendlies without breaking a lock on a target? For a healer, I just don't see the sensor analysis being that useful in a heated argument where I have to throw out SIF and extends like it is candy at a parade.

I eventually intend to get the turn rate+ sif and resist consoles from the dilithium mine so I can free up the Chevron console and put a Phaser relay in, so any thoughts you guys have I would appreciate.
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# 2
07-23-2013, 09:48 PM
For the most part you will have to break an enemy lockon to heal a teammate.

Yes....this sucks for SA cruisers...they could have left a persistent SA debuff on the target for the few seconds needed to help a teammate.

Yes....the Devs hate everyone except Tac Cpts.
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# 3
07-23-2013, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by knocky View Post
For the most part you will have to break an enemy lockon to heal a teammate.

Yes....this sucks for SA cruisers...they could have left a persistent SA debuff on the target for the few seconds needed to help a teammate.

Yes....the Devs hate everyone except Tac Cpts.
So should i stick with Ops Cruiser for extra heal buffs (extra eng console)? I agree that SA is useless on an active healer.
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Last edited by milanvorius; 07-23-2013 at 09:56 PM.
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# 4
07-23-2013, 11:05 PM
I would go with the science odyssey, the extra science console lets you add another embassy console so you can heal others and yourself if you're taking damage. It also sports +10 (I believe) extra aux power. The operations odyssey is just +5 to all systems, which isn't as useful as the extra aux.
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# 5
07-24-2013, 10:44 AM
I am not sure those embassy science consoles are worth it. I have 2field gens, shield emitter, and a chevron separate console for the 4 science.

I have plasmonic leach and borg console in the tactical.

THe other thing I am trying to do is get all my subsystem powers above 75 for the AMP warp core.
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# 6
07-24-2013, 05:30 PM
It's good to see someone else building a Oddy healer! My main character is an Eng in a Sci Oddy, so I'm going to tell you some tips from my experience. (I've written up the build that I'm using here, if you want to take a look at it.)

I'd suggest the science variant, not because it has SA but because it has the extra Science console slot. Science consoles, especially emitter arrays, are critical for getting the best performance as a healer; you'll be using shield heals a lot. The Oddy is great because it allows you to get ST3 or TSS3, the top-level shield healing abilities; more emitter arrays (and thus more Science console slots) will let you make the most out of this advantage.

(I see you're running two field generators and putting the chevron separation console in the Science console slots. As an engineer, you're usually tough enough that you can make do with just one [or zero!] field generators; you can also put the chevron separation console in your Tactical console slots, since you won't be relying on Tactical consoles as a healer. This frees you up to run two or three more emitter arrays to amp up your shield heals.)

Plus, the sci oddy has a better power bonus than the eng oddy does. +10 to shields and aux (Sci oddy) is more valuable than a generalized +5 to all systems (Eng oddy); you won't find the weapons and engines bonus as useful as a healer.
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# 7
07-24-2013, 05:31 PM
Do the threat consoles Th+ give the resistance buff like the skill Threat Control?
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# 8
07-24-2013, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by milanvorius View Post
Do the threat consoles Th+ give the resistance buff like the skill Threat Control?
No; it's purely a bonus to threat generated.
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# 9
07-24-2013, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by renimalt View Post
It's good to see someone else building a Oddy healer! My main character is an Eng in a Sci Oddy, so I'm going to tell you some tips from my experience. (I've written up the build that I'm using here, if you want to take a look at it.)

I'd suggest the science variant, not because it has SA but because it has the extra Science console slot. Science consoles, especially emitter arrays, are critical for getting the best performance as a healer; you'll be using shield heals a lot. The Oddy is great because it allows you to get ST3 or TSS3, the top-level shield healing abilities; more emitter arrays (and thus more Science console slots) will let you make the most out of this advantage.

(I see you're running two field generators and putting the chevron separation console in the Science console slots. As an engineer, you're usually tough enough that you can make do with just one [or zero!] field generators; you can also put the chevron separation console in your Tactical console slots, since you won't be relying on Tactical consoles as a healer. This frees you up to run two or three more emitter arrays to amp up your shield heals.)

Plus, the sci oddy has a better power bonus than the eng oddy does. +10 to shields and aux (Sci oddy) is more valuable than a generalized +5 to all systems (Eng oddy); you won't find the weapons and engines bonus as useful as a healer.
I am actually preparing for dilithium mine completion, the AMP warp core and the engineer consoles look very tasty. I could get a turn rate/heal consoles and ditch the chevron console all together.

I am looking to pilot a sci oddy with both my eng and sci. The sci has more pvp applicability. I also run LtC and Cdr Eng boffs only because I am the one of a few cruisers in my fleet, everyone is a carrier, escort or science ship. I have leaned toward 2xTSS1 for now, but my little friends seem to die with near full shields. I think their Fleet shields are taking the heat well, but their hulls just can't stand up to the bleed through.
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# 10
07-24-2013, 05:53 PM
If you're really not concerned with shield heals and want to focus on the hull heals, then the eng oddy might be suitable for you if you plan to stack SIF generators. Since you have both, you can try the two different ships; in my opinion, however, the sci oddy is still a better choice.

I'd still recommend running a LtC Science officer on your oddy. If you run LtC + Lt Sci, Cm + Ens Eng, you can get the high-level Engineering hull heals (AtSIF3, ET3) and combo those with HE3 + HE2 for massive spike hull heals and very strong healing over time (plus DoT cleanse). I've found, however, that AtSIF3 + HE2 + HE1 is usually enough to repair bleedthrough damage, especially if you use multiple AtSIF doffs.
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