Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 1 Why loosing is OK in PvP. :)
07-02-2013, 07:35 AM
I am making this thread to help some of the players that go bonkers when they go Boom. Primarily by sharing the experiences I myself endured while getting pwned in Ker'rat and various queues

Lets begin,
I first started this game as a Fed Sci, with none other then my first VA rank ship... A Galaxy-X . I did not even run Tac Team, as it seemed rather useless in the PvE (Missions) I had taked part in up to that point. I then ventured into Ker'rat for the first time, I went Boom at the first Alpha Strike.

Lessons Learned? Tac team is need to distribute shields D:

I then slowly started getting better, moved up to an Advanced Escort. I ran it as a Beam Scort with Faw. Did OK, as I had a much better Turn rate then my Galaxy-X did, better more Scientific Boff seating, and I ran Defence related skills like TT. I know make ppl go pew by spiraly upwards and mashing the space bar. Escorts with DHC could still Pew Pew me thou .

Lessons Learned? Movement is nice, but ability to pick a fight is very valuable. D:

I finaly made a Klink, now I was Pewing with the best of them. But I went splat soooo much more then other Klinks . This was because while yes the Cloak is nice, the 22k Hull I had was far less then I was used too.

Lessons Learned? Use the Cloak to run away from things I can not kill. D:

Now I have a Romulan, and 1000s of explosions later I am almost a decent PvPer. The problem is, I still die. I pew pew a lot now, and can schred most PvE players in meer seconds. But since I have gotten better (not just my equipment), I find it harder and harder to get better still. There is a skill cap that will be encountered at various times. This causes you to not get any better unless you seek out the best players in game and pew pew with them. It is the ONLY way to get better.

Lessons Learned? Fight players often and do not give up. As a great many of the PvP players will encourage you and often times help you to achieve your goals.

"Cliff Notes" Pew Pew is better then QQ
Ensign
Join Date: Jun 2013
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# 2
07-02-2013, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by vegie0 View Post
"Cliff Notes" Pew Pew is better then QQ
Except in cases were this supposed "QQ" serves to fix exploited mechanics and devices, thus increase the quality of "PewPew" for all those not in the wrong. The superior.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 3
07-02-2013, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by newreman1 View Post
Except in cases were this supposed "QQ" serves to fix exploited mechanics and devices, thus increase the quality of "PewPew" for all those not in the wrong. The superior.
Well thats a whole nother topic in its own right. But a lot of PvP is just players testing themselves. Unfortunately the PvE crowd sees death as a permanent thing, and never wishes to test themselves again. Then even develop a hatred for PvP players. Which causes even more problems as Ego, and in some cases the Froidian Id, prevents people from making friends.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 4
07-02-2013, 07:49 AM
I've taken to PvP only recently, and then mainly in Kerrat. I like the thrill of lasting as long as I can and occasionally splatting an unlucky opponent or 2 but I, like you, have taken lessons from PvP as NPCs don't take the time to tell me how they killed me so I can improve, PvPers do.

As a Klink, it is also nice to receive dilithium for dying often
Survivor of Romulus
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# 5
07-02-2013, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by drowrulesupreme View Post
I've taken to PvP only recently, and then mainly in Kerrat. I like the thrill of lasting as long as I can and occasionally splatting an unlucky opponent or 2 but I, like you, have taken lessons from PvP as NPCs don't take the time to tell me how they killed me so I can improve, PvPers do.

As a Klink, it is also nice to receive dilithium for dying often
Glad to see you are sticking with it, and also that you picked the best faction .
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 6
07-02-2013, 07:53 AM
I gets blowed up all the time.

Hello respawn and tac powers off cooldown

Have fun kill bad guys

-thrusters on full-
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 182
# 7
07-02-2013, 07:54 AM
The problem is that as you said, Cruiser sucked so moved to Escorts....but then I found out how OP the Battle cloak can be.

Meanwhile I am trying to keep Cruisers in PvP, I survive alpha strikes, pound the escorts only to see them constantly and effectively running away till their CDs are reset.

Still though PvP > PvE

PvE is easymode, the shock from taking a PvE ship into PvP is too traumatic for those types of players.

The Devs needs to take the builds from here and apply them to PvE NPC's.

Make the PvE crowd actually have to do more then tappy tap tap on the spacebar.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 8
07-02-2013, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by knocky View Post
The problem is that as you said, Cruiser sucked so moved to Escorts....but then I found out how OP the Battle cloak can be.

Meanwhile I am trying to keep Cruisers in PvP, I survive alpha strikes, pound the escorts only to see them constantly and effectively running away till their CDs are reset.

Still though PvP > PvE

PvE is easymode, the shock from taking a PvE ship into PvP is too traumatic for those types of players.

The Devs needs to take the builds from here and apply them to PvE NPC's.

Make the PvE crowd actually have to do more then tappy tap tap on the spacebar.
I actually became rather infamous for using the D'Deridex. And my Fed Sci still uses a Temporal Science vessel, or an Oddy. So it is not Escorts online yet. As I get blowed up all the time by well built Cruisers.
Captain
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# 9
07-02-2013, 08:03 AM
As mainly a cruiser captain, I believe it's a little more challenging on the mind to fly cruisers and support a team in 5v5, or solo it in Ker'rat. Cruisers generally aren't known for offensive power, so it's a completely different kind of playing from an escort.

It's actually rewarding, in some ways. Team healing is one of the best feelings I get from playing a cruiser in 5v5. People depend on me, and I can help them.

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Survivor of Romulus
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# 10
07-02-2013, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by stardestroyer001 View Post
As mainly a cruiser captain, I believe it's a little more challenging on the mind to fly cruisers and support a team in 5v5, or solo it in Ker'rat. Cruisers generally aren't known for offensive power, so it's a completely different kind of playing from an escort.

It's actually rewarding, in some ways. Team healing is one of the best feelings I get from playing a cruiser in 5v5. People depend on me, and I can help them.
Curses upon you and all the Healing Hax Cruisers . You ruin my Alphas
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