Commander
Join Date: May 2013
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# 1 Gear Choices
06-27-2013, 10:36 AM
Hello all. I've been playing for around a month now, and am ready to start looking at gearing up my ship. The problem is I'm not really sure where to go to that, given the dizzying array of options.

In a previous MMO it was pretty obvious what the next tier or step-up would be drops/exchange < 5 man dungeons < 10 man raids < 20 man raids for PvE and PvP was also clearly labeled by tiers for specific classes.

Here the lines are blurred between classes and hybirds are very viable (eng capt on tac ship, tac capt. in carrier etc), and there's a lot of individual customization and no 'best' ship or 'best build' or even 'best damage type'. While I appreciate the freedom to use what I like and make my own set-ups, I'm also very overwhelemed with even beginning to to try to figure out what's available.

So far, I've figured out that there is pretty decent gear (compared to my drop blues) available by:
Craft (Aegis set, notably)
Quest Sets/individual pieces (jem hadar set, subspace modulator device, etc)
Rep Gear/Sets (romulan plasma ground weapons, omega/MACO sets etc)
the Dilithium store (I'm not even sure what this is, is this the C-Store?)
The C-Store (if different from the Dilithium Store)
The Lobi Store
Fleet Items (Apparently different fleet holdings have shops that offer special consoles and other items/weapons)
Then apparently there's also buying Ships from the starbase with Zen for the gear that comes with them (like special consoles)

So I'm just kind of lost/overwhelmed with options, and don't know enough to even ask the right questions at this point. Is there any place that lists, say, all the beam based fore-ship weapons, or all the kinetic weapons, or all the consoles, etc. And when I say all, I mean available form any of those above places.

How can I even go about beginning to compare things. Should I by X ship because of it's stats, or by Y ship instead because even though the stats are worse, it comes with a good console.

Should I save up dilithium to by stuff from the dilithium store, or should I save up ECs to buy stuff people get from lockboxes/lobi and put on the exchange? Or should I convert dilithium to Zen to buy C-store stuff with? I don't know because I don't know what's available from what, or how it compares to other things available from other places.

If someone could help me through this, or just point me at some resources that give me lists or comparisions of all of a certain type of gear, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
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Commander
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# 2
06-27-2013, 12:38 PM
No one has any links or resources or ideas? How did everyone sort through the bevy of gear to find just the right console/weapon/shield/etc? for the marks/dil/zen/EC they had?
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Lieutenant
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# 3
06-27-2013, 01:00 PM
I suppose it would be best to know more about your play style. If you want to PVP or play a lot of STFs, that probably leads you into an escort and a combination of the Omega Rep and Fleet gear. Generally speaking, those two places are where the "best" gear is found.

If your play style leans more casual though, I would pick a ship you like and try out inexpensive mk xi or even mk x gear out from the exchange or some of the good free stuff you get from missions. So, if you like the look of Tetryon weapons but aren't sure if the proc is useful enough to you, as many don't, you can try it out. There are a lot of solid builds for any taste, but it amounts to what is fun for you.

Currently, I'm trying out the Romulan reputation plasma weapons on my favorite ship, the Nebula, and having fun. If I want to wail on the Borg, I'll hop into my Breen ship with fleet anti-proton weapons.

I'd worry less about stats until you find a bit of a groove, then go for it. Build out from there.

The STO wiki is always useful for comparing things - http://sto.gamepedia.com
Lieutenant
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# 4
06-27-2013, 01:15 PM
^^Beat me to it

Last edited by divvydave; 06-27-2013 at 01:23 PM.
Commander
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# 5
06-27-2013, 01:18 PM
I appreciate your response.

To answer some of your questions:

I'm a newbie tac in an escort, which I gather is similar to being a NE hunter.

I'm more PvE oriented, but wouldn't mind trying PvP in the future. I'm not interested in min-maxing for PvP though.

I also don't want borg-specific gear, because I plan on fighting multiple kinds of enemies in different PvE encounters.

I've looked at the wiki, and it unfortunately is lacking in several key areas, and doesn't really offer what I'm looking for. In order to compare things you have to 1) know what they're called to look them up first and 2) hope that there is A) information on the page and B) the information is current.

For example, typing in 'console' and 'tactical consoles' yields no relevant results listing the various end game consoles that are available where to get them, what they cost, what their stats are, how they compare to other similar consoles, etc... So if I want to see what the 'embassy' consoles are or how they are different from the valdore console, for example, I have to 1) know that both those things exist in the first place and 2) know their names, and then 3) try to find information on each individual one on the wiki and hope it has the information and that it's accurate and current.

There must be something I'm missing if no one else is having this amount of difficulty.
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# 6
06-27-2013, 01:22 PM
Look at the top of the website here. find the button called "Community" inside that there is a choice called "Wiki" click that and all the question you are asking about lists of gear is all there. There are also new player guides and much for you to read. Once you are done there then return here with questions.
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# 7
06-27-2013, 01:24 PM
If it's for farming eSTF don't stress it, you can get away with anything there.

Save your dilithium for the next c-store things you want.

But yes if you want specific advice you have to explain what role you going for, your class, ship etc.

My first half year of STO I just farmed eSTF in whatever shields I liked that night to the point some were 2 tiers below.
The upside to that mentality is switching builds, weapons and roles have been cheap for me.

Which is the other side of the coin; if you still learning you might find yourself changing abilities that require an entirely other set, so think about that too.

You going to invest in something make sure you like the skin and the build and even the ship well enough to keep it for a long while.
Commander
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# 8
06-27-2013, 01:27 PM
Quote:
Look at the top of the website here. find the button called "Community" inside that there is a choice called "Wiki" click that and all the question you are asking about lists of gear is all there.
No. I know it's fun to feel superior and dismiss the newbs when they dare to advertise their ignorance in public, but I've attempted to do my own research before bothering the forums with my concerns. Feel free to actually read the thread before posting next time, and you'll see I did get 'done there' and returned here with exactly this question. See below.

Quote:
I've looked at the wiki, and it unfortunately is lacking in several key areas, and doesn't really offer what I'm looking for. In order to compare things you have to 1) know what they're called to look them up first and 2) hope that there is A) information on the page and B) the information is current.

For example, typing in 'console' and 'tactical consoles' yields no relevant results listing the various end game consoles that are available where to get them, what they cost, what their stats are, how they compare to other similar consoles, etc... So if I want to see what the 'embassy' consoles are or how they are different from the valdore console, for example, I have to 1) know that both those things exist in the first place and 2) know their names, and then 3) try to find information on each individual one on the wiki and hope it has the information and that it's accurate and current.
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Commander
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# 9
06-27-2013, 01:35 PM
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If it's for farming eSTF don't stress it, you can get away with anything there.

Save your dilithium for the next c-store things you want.

But yes if you want specific advice you have to explain what role you going for, your class, ship etc.
Thank you for your thoughtful response. While I would definetly appreciate any advice (as I said tac/escort - looking for sustained (not burst) dps, but not just for borg STFs) I would also like information about how to learn what gear is available in the first place, where to get it, what it costs, what the stats are, how it compares to other similar pieces, etc.
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Lieutenant
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# 10
06-27-2013, 01:36 PM
No, there's a lot of info to digest when you look at consoles, equipment, weapons doffs and the skills that affect your ship's performance. It gets pretty overwhelming.

What I've learned has been from playing for two years and reading forums and looking at builds. You can search a lot of other player builds here - http://www.stoacademy.com/tools/skillplanner/search.php

Consoles can be pretty straightforward.

Tactical - Fill every slot with the console that improves the damage of the energy type you use - Phaser Relay for Phasers as an example

Science - I believe the popular options are either Emitter Arrays which boost your shield heals or Field Generators which boost your overall shield capacity. Extra 3rd or 4th slots go to special consoles in most cases.

Engineering - Two Neutronium consoles are always good general defense. Extra slots again for special consoles.

Special Consoles - These tend to be filled with things like the Borg Assimilated Module, Tachyokinetic Converter, or Zero-Point Energy Conduit which all boost your critical hits.
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