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Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,400
Having had more ambition than my actual motivation has been able to carry, I originally set out to create 4 new Romulan characters.

I'm nearing (within the next 2 weeks) completion of all 3 Rep systems on my initial Romulan Character.

However, at this point...

>The amount of different events you need to grind for different rep currencies.

> The generally tedious nature of buying an inputting small commodities (especially ground device consumables like hypos)

> The massive cost of expertise required (about 500,000 expertise PER Rep system, so about 1.5 million expertise for 3 systems - easy for old characters but yet another grind for new ones).


...have me uncertain I will even bother with a second new character, much less the 3rd and 4th.



Generally I log on, and there are things I have to do to earn rep that generally prevent me from playing the content that I actually want to play.


There are also other indirect advantages to not having multiple characters, as this game has pushed so far and hard into expensive, single character unlocks (DOFF Roster, Inventory slots, Bank Slots, Lockbox ships, fleet ships, dilithium store gear, Rep gear, fleet store gear, etc.)


So how about you? How are you taking the grind in stride?

How many characters will you maintain if they add another 1, 2, 3 or even 4 new Rep systems?

If in 1 year from now, there are a total of 6 Rep systems - would you even dare create a new character?

Keep in mind we have gotten 3 full Rep systems in the past 6/7 months.



What happens when a new faction is launched and you have to start all of it over again?


Last edited by ussultimatum; 06-28-2013 at 07:58 AM.
Lieutenant
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 85
# 2
06-28-2013, 10:31 AM
As of right now, I have no intention of leveling the Rep system on any of my other characters. I have a Rom, Fed, and KDF and my Rom is the only on I have even attempted to reach max Rep on.

If the next faction was the Cardassians, I may level that one's Rep as well. Only time will tell.

But I do think that the Rep's, and all the other grinds, is meant to only be done on one character.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 195
# 3
06-28-2013, 10:36 AM
I don't have sufficient passion for any imagined future race expansion to ever do the rep grind more than once. Heck, I don't even have what it takes to do the Nukara grind after finally completing Omega and Romster. So I'll hang with my first toon for as long as I can find fun in it, and I'll make other toons for the mission stories. My day job has all the OCD I will ever need.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 138
# 4
06-28-2013, 02:39 PM
It already stopped me from playing alts. I have two alts and once they reach 50 i am done. No way i am going to do this boring grind all over again. I feel like hitting myself in face with hot iron while going through it first time. Most boring s*** i have ever done but i need some gear. But never again.
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Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,003
# 5
06-28-2013, 03:25 PM
The rep systems are not discouraging me from making and playing alts.

I'm currently at 12 characters. I have only progressed rep tracks in 1. That is enough.

*shrug*

I'll just pretend they're account-wide and make do without them, no problems here.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,400
# 6
06-28-2013, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by twam View Post
The rep systems are not discouraging me from making and playing alts.

I'm currently at 12 characters. I have only progressed rep tracks in 1. That is enough.

*shrug*

I'll just pretend they're account-wide and make do without them, no problems here.
Well that answers the question but it's not really in the spirit of the question.

My fault for not being specific enough.


Rep is a type of character progress, but rather than gain levels and progress "up" you tend to progress more sideways. (I'm sure some MMO Thesis writer has better terms for this).


So in effect, you are actually answering my question by saying "I will not progress or advance my X amount of characters, only 1".

These means you are purposefully not advancing them, likely because the task is too tedious, time consuming or perhaps just not interesting/motivating enough to do so - although I'd rather you tell me yourself why you're not doing it than speculating.

Lt. Commander
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 217
# 7
06-28-2013, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
Having had more ambition than my actual motivation has been able to carry, I originally set out to create 4 new Romulan characters.

I'm nearing (within the next 2 weeks) completion of all 3 Rep systems on my initial Romulan Character.

However, at this point...

>The amount of different events you need to grind for different rep currencies.

> The generally tedious nature of buying an inputting small commodities (especially ground device consumables like hypos)

> The massive cost of expertise required (about 500,000 expertise PER Rep system, so about 1.5 million expertise for 3 systems - easy for old characters but yet another grind for new ones).


...have me uncertain I will even bother with a second new character, much less the 3rd and 4th.



Generally I log on, and there are things I have to do to earn rep that generally prevent me from playing the content that I actually want to play.


There are also other indirect advantages to not having multiple characters, as this game has pushed so far and hard into expensive, single character unlocks (DOFF Roster, Inventory slots, Bank Slots, Lockbox ships, fleet ships, dilithium store gear, Rep gear, fleet store gear, etc.)


So how about you? How are you taking the grind in stride?

How many characters will you maintain if they add another 1, 2, 3 or even 4 new Rep systems?

If in 1 year from now, there are a total of 6 Rep systems - would you even dare create a new character?

Keep in mind we have gotten 3 full Rep systems in the past 6/7 months.


What happens when a new faction is launched and you have to start all of it over again?
Normaly i make a engineer, tac, science space, ground & space/ground.
Now i just will make 1 tac space (escord with battle-cloak, must be tac).
When more rep systems come i will maintain all characters on my main-account (13), i start with 6, then do the last 4 fed when those are finished i will do my kdf.
As for making new characters, never say never...
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Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,061
# 8
06-28-2013, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
Well that answers the question but it's not really in the spirit of the question.

My fault for not being specific enough.
Rep is a type of character progress, but rather than gain levels and progress "up" you tend to progress more sideways. (I'm sure some MMO Thesis writer has better terms for this).
So in effect, you are actually answering my question by saying "I will not progress or advance my X amount of characters, only 1".
These means you are purposefully not advancing them, likely because the task is too tedious, time consuming or perhaps just not interesting/motivating enough to do so - although I'd rather you tell me yourself why you're not doing it than speculating.

No I don't find it too tedious atm. Currently 33 characters + 1 farm/delete toon (11-feds,15-kdf,7-roms) most non-romulan toons are T4/5 in the 2 original reps, romulans are all progressing towards T2 in all reps.

It just depends what you like to do I guess, i like leveling a new character and trying new things with each.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 650
# 9
06-28-2013, 04:40 PM
If they add anymore rep programs without a significant number of new missions to grind then I might not bother even on my primary captain. I was lucky to have lots of Nukara marks from the old version of Nukara ground hard int and ext.

To answer OP question I have many alts for testing, but I have 7 intended for use. 3 fed and 3 kdf (1 sci, eng, tac) and a rom sci.

I am only playing fed eng now, leveled feds and kdf all on the omega system, but not since. I think my fed tac has all the rom and omega reputation up. Bottom line i dont need rep for anything special in pve, just need the perks to remain competitive on my eng cap for fleet play.

The rom capt was a waste of time for my preferences and leveled from 30-50 with doff only by transferring greens. THe missions were tedious and ships lacked interest for my game play. But I like multiplayer stuff more and the missions were basically single player in nature.

Rep is not content IMO, I just want to have new things to do, not new empty bins to fill up in a repetitive manner. The rep system has pretty much eliminated my play time on the kdf side. I hope there are no new rep systems so I can play my kdf sci some in the near future.

I wish that pvp matches gave choice of marks, it is more teamwork in nature than the pug mark missions.

Last edited by milanvorius; 06-28-2013 at 04:44 PM.
Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 7,071
# 10
06-28-2013, 05:42 PM
rep is launched

take a good look at my 3 characters, thinking of trashing one, painfully grind out rep for all of them

ya, im never making a new character again


LoR launches

crap, ok 1 more character

grinding 3rd rep for old characters and all 3 for my rom, its hell


NEVER making a new character again
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