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June 26: Why Warp Drives Aren't Just Science Fiction

I was a little puzzled after reading this article. Isn't the whole premise of Star Trek warp technology that it moves the ship by forming a bubble of subspace around the ship? I'd been thinking that way due to Star Trek books and stuff for decades. The way the article is written I got the impression that this is a new thought to science, and that previously, they thought of the ship being the item moving.

Regardless, interesting article. It almost gives the opinion that we'll get warp 1 in time for April 2063.
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07-02-2013, 03:48 PM
It kind of leaves me angry that I was born a few hundred years too early.
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# 3
07-02-2013, 03:49 PM
It might be that even though the idea has been around for a while, it wasn't till recently that it actually became something more than a premise....

The article goes on to describe how it's just now becoming a little bit more than just Theoretical, to achieve the original idea.
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# 4
07-02-2013, 04:14 PM
thats more of a fold space premise than what star trek does. although they are both warping space as such one folds space from one point to another and move to it to the other, the other creates an artificial space that is generated by the ship and sort of slides along the curvature of the space time continum.

or at least thats the way it was explained in the sliders tv show, no idea if it is accurate or not.
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# 5
07-02-2013, 04:23 PM
How the warp drive in Star Trek works is pretty much up to the individual writer. I think Gene's concept when he came up with it was a) he needed an FTL drive or his stories could never be, and b) by the 23rd century, warp drive was so common that nobody ever bothered thinking or talking about how it worked, any more than the average American can describe the function of an internal-combustion engine with any accuracy.
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# 6
07-02-2013, 06:47 PM
I hope im not being too much of a buzzkill about this, but I still kinda believe if we where meant to fly we would have wings and if we where meant to travel the stars we would have a symbiot surfboard. :3

But seriously, subspace...bending space...what would the overall effects be to our solar systems natural constant? If things began to move out of alignment and be changed, the lesser bodys would begin to have undetermined effects. Even the radiation sings its own song at its own frequencies, this could cause unforeseen complications too. Perhapse even tears in time space, the activation in actual space could cause a massive implosion too depending on the fequency and how the radiation react to it and if space can be bent as easily as this, remember we dont actually know whats in a black hole.

...but what do i know, im just a cat. :3

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# 7
07-02-2013, 07:18 PM
Just reduce speed to Warp 5 for a short time. The scientists and engineers will have resolved the warp pollution problem by next week's epis...er, by next week. And they'll have figured out a way to keep every other warp-capable race from destroying the galaxy in the same way, even if we've not met them yet. It'll be such a good fix, you'll forget there ever was a problem.
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# 8
07-02-2013, 08:46 PM
Eh, it just means we're one step closer to being destroyed by an alien race who has decided we're too dangerous to be allowed to explore the stars.
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# 9
07-02-2013, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by scruffyvulcan View Post
Eh, it just means we're one step closer to being destroyed by an alien race who has decided we're too dangerous to be allowed to explore the stars.
No problem - we'll let Sir Patrick Stewart make a speech at them, and they'll let us go for at least seven more years...
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# 10
07-02-2013, 10:09 PM
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No problem - we'll let Sir Patrick Stewart make a speech at them, and they'll let us go for at least seven more years...
Okay, that made me literally cackle.
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