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# 21
07-14-2013, 04:33 PM
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actually this is a romulan bop without the bop universal bridge officers and i have one. i wouldnt even qualify this as a good tac ship let alone a science ship. as i had good success with the chel grett and its extra sci slots you would think maybe this ship would work ok but it does not.
anyhow this thread is about romulan science specific ships not bad tac ships.
I dunno what you're talking about. This ship is quite powerful. Does very heavy damage and has great CC courtesy of the LtCmdr Sci. And there are no science specific ships other than the Ha'nom. So it's the next best thing. Tactically oriented with heavy investment in science.

Besides, you have the Ha'nom. Great BOff layout, great overall stats. Why are you complaining?
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# 22
07-15-2013, 01:33 PM
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I dunno what you're talking about. This ship is quite powerful. Does very heavy damage and has great CC courtesy of the LtCmdr Sci. And there are no science specific ships other than the Ha'nom. So it's the next best thing. Tactically oriented with heavy investment in science.

Besides, you have the Ha'nom. Great BOff layout, great overall stats. Why are you complaining?
apparently almost no one did not get the point. there are no dedicated store or fleet ships but just 1 tier 5 fleet which almost no one can get. all i ask is for the option for this. i am not talking about which ship is best now but why there has not been any dedicated science ships besides the obvious one for end game when the engineers and tacs have options provided for them. right now i am trying out a scimitar for science.
on the side topic of all universal bridge officers. yes i made a joke about it but of anything i could wish for i think that would be it and would bring unlimited variety into this game with the minimum of changing game mechanics. that would be exiting. i still pull my bop out from time to time because of this and its variety to change on the fly to suit your needs.
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# 23
07-15-2013, 03:24 PM
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apparently almost no one did not get the point. there are no dedicated store or fleet ships but just 1 tier 5 fleet which almost no one can get. all i ask is for the option for this. i am not talking about which ship is best now but why there has not been any dedicated science ships besides the obvious one for end game when the engineers and tacs have options provided for them. right now i am trying out a scimitar for science.
on the side topic of all universal bridge officers. yes i made a joke about it but of anything i could wish for i think that would be it and would bring unlimited variety into this game with the minimum of changing game mechanics. that would be exiting. i still pull my bop out from time to time because of this and its variety to change on the fly to suit your needs.
So you basically want science variety on the level that feds have?

Fair enough. But I will point out that the Ha'nom has the most ideal science layout possible BOff and console-wise... so anything else they could give would be inferior.
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# 24
07-15-2013, 04:31 PM
My Romulan main is a science captain flying a Fleet T'Varo. Very nimble ship that I fly science heavy, and can pack a wallop!
Not only that, but the enhanced cloak means most of my science powers can be used whilst cloaked

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# 25
07-16-2013, 07:49 AM
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... i am not talking about which ship is best now but why there has not been any dedicated science ships besides the obvious one for end game when the engineers and tacs have options provided for them. ...
There is no immediate need for a new Romulan Science Vessel because the Ha'nom covers the fundamental elements required for a dedicated Sci ship.

Engineers and Tacs do not have more options provided for them. In fact, by your criteria, they have exactly the same number of options. Engineers have the Ha'apax, and the Tacticals have the Ha'feh. You imply that that a dedicated class ship must have Commander and Lt Commander BOff slots for the respective class, and only these two ships match that specific criterion. All other ships which are not derived from the Advanced Warbirds (everything prior to T5, their respective T5 Retrofits, and the Scimitar) are hybrid ships. You're trying to apply Federation ship styles to Warbird design - two distinctly different entities. Besides, who wants to fly a clone of a Federation ship on a Romulan character?

Addendum: That said, tt would still be interesting to see a warbird with a Commander Science slot and a Universal Lt. Commander slot - that could potentially be an interesting ship to fly. Think of the T'Varo-R's layout with the Tac and Sci seats reversed. However, it would not necessarily need to have subsystem targeting and/or sensor analysis - it would be another hybrid warbird.

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# 26
07-16-2013, 08:59 AM
So..... to sum up the majority of replies to this thread....

"Here, fly this ship that's not a sci ship. Or this other one that also isn't a sci ship, but it has some science so that's close enough. And anyway, you have one already so just be happy with that and stfu. Why you would want to fly one anyway is beyond me. Besides, all those C-Store and fleet ships don't count so we're all in the same boat."

I have absolutely no problem with a prevalence of a particular captain class or ship type, but I have to say I really would love to see what the forums would look like if there were only one Tac based ship and I would further enjoy reading the responses to statements like "That one ship is good enough to serve all your needs" or "You can get the mirror version on the exchange for cheap" or the infinitely better and personal favourite of mine "You know, you don't have to fly the same type of ship as your captain class."

Yea, we have one. One. ALL the other ships from lower tiers have T5 C-Store versions. Oh wait... there aren't any lower tier sci ships....

Sorry for being so unreasonable by wanting to have, you know, a choice of ships with Cmdr Sci slot.

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# 27
07-16-2013, 09:38 AM
Just be patient they are going to release a new Rom ship every couple of months, but first Scimitar sales need to slow down.

I'm sure they'll release a Sci ship, Escort, Cruiser, Carrier but they aren't going to drop them on the C-Store all at the same time. They are going to wait for people to get bored of the ship they are in, and than they will release something new.
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# 28
07-16-2013, 09:40 AM
I had held out hope that they would release the TNG science vessel warbird, but that's apparently a skin for the ******n Captain's Yacht.

Apparently, being a canon ship isn't good enough for the ship design team.
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# 29
07-16-2013, 12:57 PM
There are 3 T5 science ships for Romulans. Not the greatest variety, certainly, but they're highly science focused. This has been mentioned earlier in the thread.




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# 30
07-16-2013, 01:08 PM
My only beef with the Science Vessels is that:

1-They feel cheap, since it is basically the top half of a cruiser.

2-The Ha'nom is TOO BIG. Seriously, its the only Science Vessel that I have to max my ship zoom.
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