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i was thinking about builds & boff power synergies and i wondered if a layout of

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as opposed to the current layouts, and this made me think that actually dropping the cmdr station could easily result in competitive vessels.

you guys stew this stuff over constantly, so what do you think?
as much as i may be mad, am i right or wrong?

(the build i thought of for this was for a "destroyer" craft with
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i bet someone will instantly think of what setup a ship like that would be good for)
as it turns out, an intrepid would lose a fight with a connie.
and thats canon.
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# 2
07-01-2013, 02:41 PM
It would be competitive.... But when a Fleet D'Deridex and Recluses exist.... Meh.
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# 3
07-01-2013, 02:46 PM
This needs clarification. Are you asking if instead of a Cmdr,Ltcmdr,Lt,Lt,Ens setup a ,Ltcmdr,Ltcmdr,Lt,Lt,Ens would be competetive?

If so no... this I hate to say, is like asking if a ship with 5 tac consoles would be less or equally as Pew heavy as a ship with 4. The math says +25% is a good thing. Now if this is not what you are going for, clarify please.
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# 4
07-01-2013, 02:48 PM
Also, In your examples, you have no ensigns, is this intentional?
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# 5
07-01-2013, 02:51 PM
Evaluating your post also confuses me. As it appears you want to know about a Ltcmdr,Ltcmdr,Lt,Lt,Lt build... but this removes one High level boff seat in favor of lower level boff seats. This seems to just be a bad idea. As APO 3 is sooooo much better then APO1. So why get rid of APO3 for something like Haz 2. You will see more from APO3.

The same goes for Engie and Sci powers. Cmdr ability is > Lt ability.
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# 6
07-01-2013, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by magniacapra View Post
Also, In your examples, you have no ensigns, is this intentional?
yes.
thats the point.

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The same goes for Engie and Sci powers. Cmdr ability is > Lt ability.
im aware that one for one a cmdr level ability will beat a lt power, im just wondering if such a ship, a destroyer type ship, could could get effective builds using different power synergies than currently available.
as it turns out, an intrepid would lose a fight with a connie.
and thats canon.
! the power of plot compels you.
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# 7
07-01-2013, 03:59 PM
I'd prefer either of those bridge officer layouts to some of the 3x tac or engineering ensign versions we have, but if your looking for simply the most optimal? Like I said, recluse and d'deridex are far more potent layouts imo.
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# 8
07-01-2013, 04:03 PM
3 Lts is not so great, but what about

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# 9
07-01-2013, 04:07 PM
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I'd prefer either of those bridge officer layouts to some of the 3x tac or engineering ensign versions we have, but if your looking for simply the most optimal? Like I said, recluse and d'deridex are far more potent layouts imo.
yea... the also have 13 boff powers to the 12 that other end game ships have... so by that alone... "meh".

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exactly my point. would such layouts be able to generate competitive power setups with out the easy way out of, "lol maor herp on this derp!"
as it turns out, an intrepid would lose a fight with a connie.
and thats canon.
! the power of plot compels you.

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# 10
07-01-2013, 04:22 PM
They have 12, they get away with it by having no lieutenants
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