Lieutenant
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 30
# 11
07-02-2013, 09:05 AM
I thank the OP for this. Too many times I think new players give up to fast as they get discouraged. I have certainly learned more from my mistakes (deaths) than I have on my successes. My story is as follows...

I started out in beta as a Fed Science captain and continued to do that when the game went live. I played PvE for 2-3 months then decided to PvP. Well, my experience of PvP was: Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom, etc. continually died, hardly scratched anyones hull. I continued to try to figure out powers... PvE was so easy, and PvP I got wasted, time and time again.

Eventually I read on the forums that the Engineer had the best tanking abilities for the captain skills... so, I rerolled a Fed Engineer in a sci ship, and took as many shield and hull repair skills as I could.

Although, I continually died, it took people longer and longer to kill me until I found the right combinations and timing. I felt good, only took me 6-8 months of dying and I finally figured out how to survive 3-5 people at a time... only problem was, I couldn't kill anyone as I had all defense skills...

So, I began to slowly change out defense skills for offense so I could kill at least a couple people during a match.

Eventually, I switched to a cruiser (hated it), then switched to an escort... pretty much never went back to a sci ship or cruiser... I continued to PvP as an Escort for 3-6 months until I ran across an opponent that was super good (Reaper (Diablo) / SVK Elite), and convinced me to try a klingon instead. So, I created a klingon engineer in a BoP. Finally, I could fly an escort that I could put as much defense as I wanted on it, and yet could switch it out in battle (by cloaking).

Eventually, about a year and a half ago, I created a Tac captain, and finally found my calling... with all the time spent on figuring out defense skills, I was able to create escorts that could take a pounding, and yet, be able to kill others as well... Finally... 2+ years later...

Keep in mind, I learned all of this on my own. Nowdays, there is the OPvP channel, fleets, PvP BootCamp (where I learned a ton), to help you.

All I can say is never give up. Try try again. Eventually, you will be doing well and helping the next new PvP player...

Qapla

Obsidian

Last edited by sylverwolfie; 07-02-2013 at 09:24 AM.
Career Officer
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# 12
07-02-2013, 09:09 AM
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Curses upon you and all the Healing Hax Cruisers . You ruin my Alphas
...yeahyeah... better have some nuc-ies with u and take em elsewhere from where i am ^^ ;D...

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Join Date: Sep 2012
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# 13
07-02-2013, 09:12 AM
I learned to pvp from looking how other people pvp, I did go my own way tho, and I succeeded after succeeding, I didn't have many failures, because I started as kdf from first place and as we know, feds mostly are/were n44bs over time feds got better, I also got better steadily, and now I'm at point where my only restrictions are minmaxing(to perfectly balance my ship), computer(fps and my wonderful 1gb ram), will to fly single ship for longer than 3 days in row, and actually tryharding and giving **** about winning. And finding a team that would fly with me, since I feel alone. Before I can feel like I am ready to PvP, I need new PC.
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Last edited by saxfire; 07-02-2013 at 09:14 AM.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 994
# 14
07-02-2013, 09:13 AM
How to have fun PvP:

1. Do your best, but don't stress out

2. Try to coordinate with your team, but don't think you're Picard taking command of the fleet

3. Be prepared to blow up, and don't waste vast amounts of time running away and hiding

4. Losing is OK, you still get your dilithium, and maybe you learned something


Basically, just get in there, fight it out, and don't sweat it too much. Improvement will come with time.
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 292
# 15
07-02-2013, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by stardestroyer001 View Post
As mainly a cruiser captain, I believe it's a little more challenging on the mind to fly cruisers and support a team in 5v5, or solo it in Ker'rat. Cruisers generally aren't known for offensive power, so it's a completely different kind of playing from an escort.

It's actually rewarding, in some ways. Team healing is one of the best feelings I get from playing a cruiser in 5v5. People depend on me, and I can help them.

Good for you, you found something within the limitations imposed by the escort loving devs that make you happy.

Sadly for me, Star Trek is about Cruisers.

I did not grow up watching the USS Enterprise following escorts around being their private healbots.

Cruisers went out into deep space solo while escorts stayed home and watched the freighters.
Ensign
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 21
# 16
07-02-2013, 09:38 AM
I often lose in PvP, basically for one good reason ' cloaks '

PvP would be a whole lot better if Klingons stopped staying cloaked and then picking on someone who is engaging Borg cubes on Kerrat with an Alpha strike.

I would love to see an option to have all cloaks disabled to even up the field, perhaps a new map exclusively PvP.

Alas, most Klingons in PvP stay cloaked, and stay together, in my mind that makes them cowards!. Stand and fight grrrr (oo)

If your gonna PvP and test yourself, do not cloak, sure you will go boom often but you will learn a little more. Stop relying on cloaks, and dont think that your improving just because you destroyed a fed ship with sneak attacks.

Mmmmm Feds mostly are / were / noobs? This is from a KDF player comment. Well this same player probably does exactly what I posted above, likes to cloak, only attacks with a friend on an opponent who is allready under fire. Probably exclusively only goes into Kerrat as Klingon. I hereby challenge you to face me on Kerrat ' saxfire ' without your cloak - you can fall back if you want to, wont do you any good lets see how long you last on equal terms muhhahahahahahha
Republic Veteran
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 367
# 17
07-02-2013, 09:39 AM
Dying is ok, loosing game is not. IMHO.

Victory is life!
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Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 485
# 18
07-02-2013, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by coresystem View Post
I often lose in PvP, basically for one good reason ' cloaks '

PvP would be a whole lot better if Klingons stopped staying cloaked and then picking on someone who is engaging Borg cubes on Kerrat with an Alpha strike.

I would love to see an option to have all cloaks disabled to even up the field, perhaps a new map exclusively PvP.

Alas, most Klingons in PvP stay cloaked, and stay together, in my mind that makes them cowards!. Stand and fight grrrr (oo)

If your gonna PvP and test yourself, do not cloak, sure you will go boom often but you will learn a little more. Stop relying on cloaks, and dont think that your improving just because you destroyed a fed ship with sneak attacks.

Mmmmm Feds mostly are / were / noobs? This is from a KDF player comment. Well this same player probably does exactly what I posted above, likes to cloak, only attacks with a friend on an opponent who is allready under fire. Probably exclusively only goes into Kerrat as Klingon. I hereby challenge you to face me on Kerrat ' saxfire ' without your cloak - you can fall back if you want to, wont do you any good lets see how long you last on equal terms muhhahahahahahha
LOL, I hope this is ment as sarcasm lol. Seeing as my Cloak costs me 20k hull and 8k Shields >.<, but a lot of feds think that the cloak is an end all. My ships often times do not need a cloak so much as I could use MES. I could also get a Cruiser and tank/pew my way out of just about anything. I just enjoy the fun of cloak sneaking upon a target.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 80
# 19
07-02-2013, 09:42 AM
lol new ship or new season i always start at kerrat to test build and adjust as necessary that way pve can be done when half asleep.

i always seem to start out as trying to be an irritant more than for the killing ppl, that way the good players will get ticked and keep after me the bad just go boom alot.

oh forgot the more you go boom the better the learning curve i think

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Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 14,580
# 20
07-02-2013, 09:52 AM
When there's a difference between winning and losing, then it might matter...eh? It's casual PvP, have fun...find interesting ways to blow folks up, notice interesting ways people blow you up, heck - best of all, look back on interesting ways you've blown yourself up, heh.
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