Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
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# 1 Retrofit Purchase?
07-04-2013, 09:35 PM
I am sure a silly questions, but with the current ship sale was eyeballing getting maybe a DPS escort to try on my Engineer. I see the Sao Paulo Refit, but I do not have the "Defiant" ship in my inventory...

Can I buy this pack and get the ship, or do I need to buy the in-game "Captain" level tac ship 1st?

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Captain
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# 2
07-04-2013, 10:08 PM
You don't have to buy the Captain level one first, however, I would not advise getting the Sao Paulo refit, as it's still a Captain level (T4) ship, and you'll spend most of your time using the T5 ships.
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# 3
07-04-2013, 11:21 PM
however if you want the console then go for it.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 4
07-05-2013, 12:16 AM
T5
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Tactical_Escort_Retrofit
gets cloak

T3
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Tactical_Escort
unlocks Sao paulo skin
get phaser quad cannons

up to you which is worth it more I have lots of toons so it was worth it to me to unlock both
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# 5
07-05-2013, 06:23 AM
It's a T4 not a T3 that comes with the Quads.
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Captain
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# 6
07-05-2013, 12:40 PM
The Sao Paulo is a T4/Captain ship itself is not really good for endgame. However, the skin and weapons can be used on the T5 Defiant.

If you have gone LTS recently and gotten the all the vet rewards, your should have gotten the 600-day Vet ship token for a Tier5 Tactical Escort Retrofit (T5 Defiant), Galaxy Retrofit or the Intrepid Retrofit.

With the purchase of the Sao Paulo and the T5 Defiant, you can customize the T5 Defiant look to be the Sao Paulo, add the Sao Paulo weapons (that auto level with your character) and you will have a T5 Sao Paulo with Quad-cannons that will be good for endgame.

How do you know if you have the 600-day token? I believe that if you go to ESD ship dock, go to the person that you purchase ships from, select the T5 defiant and the price should mention that you have 1 vet ship token.

This may be outdated, but STOwiki.org (http://sto.gamepedia.com/Phaser_Quad_Cannons) mentions that you can only equip ONE quad-cannon per ship.

Hope this helps.

EDIT: Captain/Sao Paulo is T4 not T3. Corrected above.
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Last edited by sirokk; 07-05-2013 at 01:04 PM.
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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# 7
07-05-2013, 12:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirokk View Post
The Sao Paulo is a T3/Captain ship itself is not really good for endgame. However, the skin and weapons can be used on the T5 Defiant.
Captain is T4. Commander is T3.

Progression goes like so:

T1 - Ensign/Lt - Miranda
T2 - Lt. Commander - Connnie/Saber/Nova
T3 - Commander - Cheyenne/Akira/Olympic
T4 - Captain - Galaxy/Defiant/Intrepid
T5 - Ra/Va - Every bloody thing
Captain
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# 8
07-05-2013, 01:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stirling191 View Post
Captain is T4. Commander is T3.

Progression goes like so:

T1 - Ensign/Lt - Miranda
T2 - Lt. Commander - Connnie/Saber/Nova
T3 - Commander - Cheyenne/Akira/Olympic
T4 - Captain - Galaxy/Defiant/Intrepid
T5 - Ra/Va - Every bloody thing
Thank you for the correction. I see that now.
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Captain
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# 9
07-05-2013, 01:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirokk View Post
Thank you for the correction. I see that now.
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# 10
07-05-2013, 01:16 PM
Get the Thunderchild for the Point defense turret... it's a must on all my builds and has served me big time.

However, its a T4 ship (or was it T3), so along with that, you should get the Defiant Retrofit, wich will allow you to get the Fleet Defiant for 1 fleet module...
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