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# 31
07-11-2013, 07:22 PM
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I can see how that would've been a good idea in the past but now it's outdated overkill :/
I wouldn't be surprised if they were to make it speed variable like they did EM and with the Corvette. Then again, I guess I would be - they can't touch them - they want to, lol - but they know who butters their bread.
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# 32
07-11-2013, 07:51 PM
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DHC is the most OP weapon ever. They can put out insane dps number that just kills PvP gameplay. Many can kill a player with their DHC within 2-3 seconds, far faster than any other weapons in STO.

By nerfing DHCs, more PvEers will try out PvP and save this declining community.

Will you ask Cryptic to nerf DHC and what would be your proposed nerf(s)?
I'd ask Cryptic to nerf terrible people who are bad at the game before I asked for anything else.

I'm guessing that you signed up for one PvP match for the dilithium and some nasty escort pilot neglected to read the part of your biography where you say you're the <Federation/KDF's> top captain who has never been defeated and blew up your failboat, failing to respect your Mary Sue's backstory while ruining your immersion, leading you to ragequit and then whine about it here?

I'm right, aren't I?

Learn to play. If you can't figure it out yourself, sign up for the PvP bootcamp: they will tell you everything you need to know to graduate from the rank of 'terrible' to 'merely bad'.
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# 33
07-11-2013, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tequilapasta View Post
I'd ask Cryptic to nerf terrible people who are bad at the game before I asked for anything else.

I'm guessing that you signed up for one PvP match for the dilithium and some nasty escort pilot neglected to read the part of your biography where you say you're the <Federation/KDF's> top captain who has never been defeated and blew up your failboat, failing to respect your Mary Sue's backstory while ruining your immersion, leading you to ragequit and then whine about it here?

I'm right, aren't I?

Learn to play. If you can't figure it out yourself, sign up for the PvP bootcamp: they will tell you everything you need to know to graduate from the rank of 'terrible' to 'merely bad'.
He knows how to play, he is just mad about the discussion here going on in this thread
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh...d.php?t=771691 because most people agree his new OP toy nukara web mines should be nerfed and said there he would start a nerf DHC thread in response. I don't think he is serious, just trying to create a diversion in a vain attempt to save his mines.

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So what else should I use? I don't have any energy weapon, so in your opinion, I should just be a floating "pleasure boat in space"? Using your definition, all my weapons are OP and should be nerfed. In Kerrat, I can't get over how many moaning I get from Klink for using - god forbidden, Transphasic Torpedos. But many were convinced these low yield torps are useless - only to be killed by them.

Funny enough, Cluster Torp is quite commonly seen, but I have not been hit by it let alone killed by one as far as I can remember. I usually just shrug when someone fired one at me. You know why? A pistol can't kill on its own, much of it depends on its user. Half of the time, it's fired by someone who think they have an OP weapon but did not spec for it so their damage is poor to begin with. Other times, they don't know a slow moving torp that can be destroyed isn't going to do much as a stand-alone vehicle but that's exactly that they will do - fire that one single slow moving torp at you while you are pursing them. I can't help them if they are stupid.

If there is anything that needs to be nerfed, it's DHC. The DHC has killed far more than all torpedo combined and is the main reason why not many PvEers will not do PvP. All they need is to see how DHC just pew pew them within seconds that they will not touch PvP if they can help it. In fact, I think I should start a new thread on this.
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# 34
07-11-2013, 08:16 PM
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as i said, lets go back to the FAW crusiers now powered by aux2bat.
this is an implementation problem to do with the antiquated way powers are implemented in the game., and the antiquated way powers function and interact in game.
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can you say attack pattern angry forumers 3?
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# 35
07-11-2013, 11:50 PM
dare i say virus is the new Big Red Jedi?

the dude does more research than anyone i see on the forums....

and it holds...

ggs virus. ggs.

have fun kill bad guys

-thrusters on full-
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# 36
07-12-2013, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by iskandus View Post
DHC is the most OP weapon ever. They can put out insane dps number that just kills PvP gameplay. Many can kill a player with their DHC within 2-3 seconds, far faster than any other weapons in STO.

By nerfing DHCs, more PvEers will try out PvP and save this declining community.

Will you ask Cryptic to nerf DHC and what would be your proposed nerf(s)?


and you think faw dem cruisers aren't putting out more dps than escorts with dhc ?


dhc dont need a nerf
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# 37
07-12-2013, 12:06 AM
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dare i say virus is the new Big Red Jedi?
Lol, nowhere near.

Maybe...Lil' Salmon Padawan. Given my moments of senility, maybe add an Ol' in front of it.
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# 38
07-12-2013, 12:06 AM
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dare i say virus is the new Big Red Jedi?
Not a bad comparison
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# 39
07-12-2013, 12:10 AM
the maximum dps cruisers are capable of with the maxed out AtB builds is starting to actually be as good as a 4 DHC escorts, but when used in pvp these cruisers still fail to deal truly effective damage. their dps will need to be even higher for them to be 'balanced'. cruisers should be the best dps platform, but escorts should have the front loaded, peeks and valies damage dealing, that ends up being the effective damage. thats when the game is close to being all ship type inclusive.
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# 40
07-12-2013, 12:39 AM
4/4 Weapons
LCdr/En, Cmdr/Lt, Lt
4 / 4 / 2 Consoles
Beams et al

...vs...

5/3 Weapons
Cmdr, Lt, Lt, LCdr/En
5 / 2 / 3 Consoles
Hangar
DHCs et al

Assign the following three to the two ships above:

Spike Damage (short interval DPS)
Single Target DPS
Trash Mob DPS
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