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# 111
09-03-2013, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bridgern View Post
CBS said only NO! to a T5 Constitution class.
CBS said "No" to a T5 Connie. We all know this.

And I claimed they said "Yes' to a T5 B'Rel. Again it's in the game we all know this.

The question here is have they said "Yes' to a T5 Miranda? They may not have said "No", but I don't think they said "Yes' either.
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# 112
09-03-2013, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bridgern View Post
One word: B'rel
Big deal, the KDF has a fleet version of a T1, things still a garbage scow, my Odyssey could blow that tub away. Just because something has a fleet variant doesn't mean it makes that ship the most powerful on the game and other than just being something to fly around in just to say "hey people look at me" theres absolutely no functional use for it, you'd be useless in pvp, getting blown away by everyone, fleet pve missions? pfft, forget about it, you'd just be in the way, taking up team space that could be used by someone in a real ship.
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# 113
09-03-2013, 11:03 AM
Well the minority of us are willing to pay for a Fleet Miranda so ......Money talks and BS walks....
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# 114
09-03-2013, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by captainlang View Post
Well the minority of us are willing to pay for a Fleet Miranda so ......Money talks and BS walks....
So give Cryptic enough money and to the right people like CBS and Disney and we can have Star Destroyers in the game. Problem is that most people don't have enough money to do something like this. Same thing with the Fleet Miranda except that it would be slightly cheaper, but still out of the range of most people. Money only gets you so far and if CBS says no to a Fleet Miranda, then that means more money is needed to convince them. Everyone has a price, but sometimes that price is so far out of this world that no one can buy them.
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# 115
09-03-2013, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by starkaos View Post
So give Cryptic enough money and to the right people like CBS and Disney and we can have Star Destroyers in the game. Problem is that most people don't have enough money to do something like this. Same thing with the Fleet Miranda except that it would be slightly cheaper, but still out of the range of most people. Money only gets you so far and if CBS says no to a Fleet Miranda, then that means more money is needed to convince them. Everyone has a price, but sometimes that price is so far out of this world that no one can buy them.
How about a petition on the forums or some place to show how many players on the Federation side want a T5 Fleet Miranda or Fleet T2 Cruiser. We have Fleet T3 Heavy Cruisers and all that already. Why not give us that bone? I loved my Miranda/Shi'kar and would love to be in one again. Same with a Fleet T2 Cruiser, I loved flying the Excalibur-class skin around.
Cruisers do not suck at DPS and Escorts are not Tanks. If you think this, you need to reread the definition of Tank.
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# 116
09-03-2013, 01:07 PM
I think OP's request was more in line with a heavy escort stats wise, it might be a good set up for the fleet NX variant.

The fleet frigate needs to come in four forms, one for each of its C-store variations. The Miranda would be a jack of all trades with a great speed boost. After all we know for certain they could keep up with a Defiant class ship.
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, and T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The rule needs to change.
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# 117
09-03-2013, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by starkaos View Post
So give Cryptic enough money and to the right people like CBS and Disney and we can have Star Destroyers in the game. Problem is that most people don't have enough money to do something like this. Same thing with the Fleet Miranda except that it would be slightly cheaper, but still out of the range of most people. Money only gets you so far and if CBS says no to a Fleet Miranda, then that means more money is needed to convince them. Everyone has a price, but sometimes that price is so far out of this world that no one can buy them.
Show me where CBS said No to a Fleet Miranda?


In UGC Podcast Captain Geko talks of Adding Constellation and the Kelsey Grammer Miranda (AKA Soyuz class Miranda)

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# 118
09-03-2013, 02:36 PM
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Show me where CBS said No to a Fleet Miranda?


In UGC Podcast Captain Geko talks of Adding Constellation and the Kelsey Grammer Miranda (AKA Soyuz class Miranda)
Show me where I said anything about CBS saying NO to a Fleet Miranda. I said if CBS said NO to a Fleet Miranda, then it is possible to change their mind with an incentive. If I had enough money, I could make almost anyone do any idiotic thing like a Pope converting to Islam. Of course, such a thing would cost billions of dollars or even more.

Podcasts are not binding in any way especially one that involves the Foundry for adding player ships. Captain Geko could have just meant adding new npc ships to the Foundry. So just because some dev mentioned something about a Miranda in a Podcast doesn't necessarily mean that Fleet Miranda will be available.
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# 119
09-03-2013, 02:51 PM
The problem is those people who want a T5 fleet Miranda don't want a normal ship, they want some super ship with more weapons than a fleet, a insane number of hull points, and shields no weapon can touch. they want an invincible, super ship. Every topic I see in the forums about a fleet Miranda wants 30k, 40k, 100k, hull points, just crazy numbers. Personally I could care less if they added one but realistically you can't expect super ship, all your going to get is a ever so slightly beefed up version of the in game ship. It would be a tier 5 ship that's available from a tier 1 fleet shipyard with stats lower than every other fleet ship. Yes KDF has the B'rel but look at the stats

Standard
Tier:1
Type: Raider
Hull: 10,000
Standard Shields: 3,410
Shield Modifier: 0.8
Weapons: Fore 2 Aft 1
Can equip dual cannons.
Crew: 30
Bridge Officers: Warrior-warrior-warrior
Device Slots: 1
Consoles: tac 1 eng 1 sci 1
Turn Rate: 23
Impulse Modifier: 0.20
Inertia rating: 80
Bonus Power: +15 weapons power
Abilities: Cloak

Fleet Variant
Tier: 5
Type: Raider
Hull: 24,750
Standard Shields: 4,598 (Mk X)
Shield Modifier: 0.88
Weapons: Fore 4 Aft 2
Crew: 30
Bridge Officers: lieutenant-lieutenant-lieutenant-lieutenant
Device Slots: 2
Consoles: tac 3 eng 4 sci 3
Turn Rate: 23
Impulse Modifier: 0.20
Inertia rating: 80
Bonus Power: +15 weapons power
Abilities: Enhanced Battle Cloak

See, theres only a slight difference between the two, the hull only went up by 14,750, few other changes but nothing all that significant. Can you expect more from a T5 Miranda? No, it would have similar changes. So if you want a T5 Miranda fine, have fun with it, but don't expect too much from it.
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# 120
09-03-2013, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by vermatrix View Post

Fleet Variant
Tier: 5
Type: Raider
Hull: 24,750
Standard Shields: 4,598 (Mk X)
Shield Modifier: 0.88
Weapons: Fore 4 Aft 2
Crew: 30
Bridge Officers (All Universal Slots): Lieutenant-Lieutenant-Lieutenant Commander-Commander
Device Slots: 2
Consoles: tac 3 eng 4 sci 3
Turn Rate: 23
Impulse Modifier: 0.20
Inertia rating: 80
Bonus Power: +15 weapons power
Abilities: Enhanced Battle Cloak
Fixed it. You had the BOff slots wrong.
Cruisers do not suck at DPS and Escorts are not Tanks. If you think this, you need to reread the definition of Tank.
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