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# 491
08-06-2013, 09:00 AM
I'm still concerned about this "built-in" browser.

Getting security and standardization right in a commercial web browser is hard enough that the companies who do this full time with financial resources still have issues.

My simple question is what is it? Is it something PWE built on their own, did they use code from Mozilla/Firefox, are they simply using an API for Internet Explorer, or what?

Is this browser going to get regular updates for security issues? In other words, is PWE going to fully support this browser now and for good as a state-of-the-art browser?

Frankly, I don't want to use it unless I know it's at least as secure as IE or Chrome.
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# 492
08-06-2013, 09:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluegeek View Post
I'm still concerned about this "built-in" browser.

Getting security and standardization right in a commercial web browser is hard enough that the companies who do this full time with financial resources still have issues.

My simple question is what is it? Is it something PWE built on their own, did they use code from Mozilla/Firefox, are they simply using an API for Internet Explorer, or what?

Is this browser going to get regular updates for security issues? In other words, is PWE going to fully support this browser now and for good as a state-of-the-art browser?

Frankly, I don't want to use it unless I know it's at least as secure as IE or Chrome.
I wouldn't mind having a built-in browser in the game, but it should not have anything to do with some bloat launcher in my opinion.

Kind of what EVE Online had when I last played it, it was essentially a licensed version of chrome with some limitations to rule out some security issues.


Just to make it clear, I do not want Arc, but wouldn't mind a browser in-game.
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# 493
08-06-2013, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by arnthebard View Post
First off I am still pissed off about the bugs that STO has had since launch.

Secondly my mailbox lost hundreds of emails to myself with equipment and doffs.

Thirdly Cryptic customer service sends me robo replys and then closes the ticket.

Fourthly I am STILL short 1500 Zen and have no ledger showing any records

Fifthly, I found this damn Pando media booster on my PC that I never asked for or wanted

Now they want to force ARC on me?



Well guess what things just got nasty so nasty that I have decided to do something about this crap. Some of you might assume I have gone off my rocker others might think this is a lie. Until it comes to pass...

CRYPTIC will be bought ..... hostile takeover if necessary and brought back to the USA within the next 90 days. I have reached my end with the Chinese Overlords. They can keep thier crappy little games. I am a lifer and have been around this game since launch. I too have suffered the incompetence of the ownership that will not listen to the customers.

I will NEVER play Neverwinter Nights I have 40+ years of tabletop D&D books and accessories from 4 different editions. This goes for for all mmos the ONLY reason I gave STO a chance was because I was curious and have been a lifelong Trekkie. But now I have had enough of the corporate lies and deciet.


This game has never had the proper resources it needed to fix the problems. I am going to see that the bugs get fixed. That you WILL have live moderators monitoring chats and a 24 hr response time to your ticket by a HUMAN BEING not a damn roboreply. Say bye bye to the lock box crap... The C-store worked just fine when it was used. And game play will get a MUCH needed overhaul and a balance. No more soft walls that the enemies can shoot you through... So before you ridicule me and laugh at the thought of CRYPTIC being bought... give me the 90 days to bring my financial resources to bear.

-Arnthebard-
Yeah good luck with that, If you can do it then great but i doubt that will be the case.
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# 494
08-06-2013, 09:22 AM
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I for one, welcome our new angry overlord.
I, for two, do too.
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# 495
08-06-2013, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by arnthebard View Post
CRYPTIC will be bought ..... hostile takeover if necessary and brought back to the USA within the next 90 days. I have reached my end with the Chinese Overlords.
-Arnthebard-
I know this comment was made tongue-in-cheek, but I really do hope it happens by a company with the resources to do it. I've also been kind of hoping CBS pulls the license, though that would put Cryptic in a bad spot.

Porthos is not amused.
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# 496
08-06-2013, 10:22 AM
The last point on the FAQ seems to imply that they want ARC mandatory at some point.

"Will future versions of Perfect World games require Arc to download and patch?

From a technical standpoint, we would absolutely love to make Arc a central, exclusive platform that serves update and patching functionality for all our games, though we are not ready to do that just yet. First, we want to make the tool something that our players enjoy and feel genuinely improves their gameplay experience. If you have feedback about how Arc can better provide you access to your favorite Perfect World games, please feel free to post it on our forums. We?re looking forward to hearing your thoughts!"

"Exclusive" would be the key word there. How that affects Steam or how long that will take is anyone's guess. Hoping for a few more years of play before that happens. Players would "enjoy" not having to use ARC at all. It cannot provide me easier access than I already have.
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# 497
08-06-2013, 02:56 PM
Why can't I help interpreting that statement as:

As soon as we can fabricate a good reason to avoid the massive public backlash of players who don't wish to use Arc when it is made mandatory?

Everything I read about this says, we're making it look as good as possible, despite the opinion to the contrary.
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# 498
08-06-2013, 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluegeek View Post
I'm still concerned about this "built-in" browser.

Getting security and standardization right in a commercial web browser is hard enough that the companies who do this full time with financial resources still have issues.

My simple question is what is it? Is it something PWE built on their own, did they use code from Mozilla/Firefox, are they simply using an API for Internet Explorer, or what?

Is this browser going to get regular updates for security issues? In other words, is PWE going to fully support this browser now and for good as a state-of-the-art browser?

Frankly, I don't want to use it unless I know it's at least as secure as IE or Chrome.
the part in red will never happen tbh as they will not want to spend the cash on staff to keep it secure , it will not be an easy task and more than "PWE" will want to spend as it will reduce it's profits .

look at Microsoft they have spent millions on more than 9 versions of IE and it still is not 100% secure , do you think PWE will want to spend that much money/time on this ?

Last edited by usscapital; 08-06-2013 at 03:39 PM.
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# 499
08-06-2013, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by usscapital View Post
the part in red will never happen tbh as they will not want to spend the cash on staff to keep it secure , it will not be an easy task and more than "PWE" will want to spend as it will reduce it's profits .

look at Microsoft they have spent millions on more than 9 versions of IE and it still is not 100% secure , do you think PWE will want to spend that much money/time on this ?
Which is *precisely* why PWE should never embark on such a foolish endeavor. For crying out-loud, Dstahl recently admitted they don't even have the resources to do proper quality control for STO itself. How will they expect to maintain a secure, own browser?! Let alone that a browser has abso-frakkin'-lutely nothing to do with STO to begin with.
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# 500
08-06-2013, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by meimeitoo View Post
For crying out-loud, Dstahl recently admitted they don't even have the resources to do proper quality control for STO itself..
but they still keep adding stuff to the game without fixing it , at the rate this game is going it will not make season 10 due to the bugs breaking the game more than it is now . don't get me wrong I love the game but come on cryptic fix more of the game before adding more bugs , to me cryptic are reading this and thinking pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft boring people moaning about game bugs

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