Survivor of Romulus
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 1,540
# 81
07-27-2013, 09:57 PM
Probably better to post this on the Klingon Forums.

Feds don't care about KDF Nerfs until the knock on effect hits them.
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Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 29
# 82
07-27-2013, 10:17 PM
I am sick of this I follow the rules and it is getting me no where. I submitted a ticket and haven't even gotten a response back. that was 2 days ago? I demand some support and an explaination as to what is going on DEVs answer. I have several toons which are dependant on my contraband farming and there is only so much I can do without it as to the amount of time I have to spend playing. when this game starts becoming a JOB I WILL LEAVE

Last edited by prestonpool; 07-27-2013 at 10:26 PM.
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 29
# 83
07-27-2013, 10:33 PM
then tell my why Cryptic I drop from 10-25 contraband before the patch to a measly 1 an hour now how the hell is this more I ask you? Fix this ASAP I have several toons which are dependant on my contraband farming and I have not got the time to wait hours on end for 10 contraband as now it will take me 10 hours for just 10 contraband this is insulting our intelligence by saying otherwise

and for your information I have never ever gotten a Prisoner DOFF from slavers period!!!!!

QUOTE=borticuscryptic;11583371]1) Slavers had their chance to steal goods almost tripled in this patch.
2) Relaunch timers never mattered, because Slavers attempt to steal every 15seconds. Hangars would have to refresh 2x this fast in order to have any impact on their ability to steal loot.
3) The average EC value taken over time has been more than doubled, despite these reductions. It's just far less spikey & inconsistent, now.
4) No individual items have been removed from the drop tables - you can still get DS9 commodities, Contraband and Prisoner Doffs. It's only the odds of receiving large numbers of them that've been reduced.[/quote]





I tend to get highly upset when people think I am a total moron. if what I wrote offends anyone I am sorry but it is my feelings

Last edited by prestonpool; 07-27-2013 at 11:09 PM.
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 29
# 84
07-27-2013, 10:41 PM
for 2 1/2 hours of farming here is what I got FYI cryptic

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[CombatAlert] Captain, our enemy's facing shields are down!

[NumericReceived] You received 56 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 64 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 2 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 2 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 6 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 5 Expertise

[CombatAlert] Captain, our enemy's facing shields are down!

[NumericReceived] You received 6 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 6 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 6 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 6 Expertise

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Tetryon Dual Heavy Cannons Mk XI

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Engine Battery

[NumericReceived] You received 1 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 1 Expertise

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 6 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 5 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 5 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 4 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You received 6 Expertise

[NumericReceived] You received 5 Expertise

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Contraband

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 400 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 350 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[GameplayAnnounce] Enzo Aquarius@enzoaquarius has earned the title "Outstanding Teammate" for beating wave eight of the No Win Scenario Event.

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[MailReceived] New mail from @Exchange: "Item sold in the Exchange."

[MailReceived] New mail from @Exchange: "Item sold in the Exchange."

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Water Purification Systems

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You received 350 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 440 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Water Purification Systems

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Water Purification Systems

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Water Purification Systems

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[NumericReceived] You sold Engine Battery for 80 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You sold Tetryon Dual Heavy Cannons Mk XI for 4,324 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You sold Polaron Dual Heavy Cannons Mk X [CrtH] for 5,176 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You sold Polaron Dual Cannons Mk XI for 4,324 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You sold Engine Battery - Large for 8 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You sold Shields Battery for 160 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You sold Photon Torpedo Launcher Mk XI [CrtH] for 5,751 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You sold Critical Components for 1,600 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[GameplayAnnounce] Wyatt@jasonbelgrade has acquired a Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer!

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Water Purification Systems

[GameplayAnnounce] Kelaka@kuldrath has acquired a Ferengi D'Kora Marauder!

[NumericReceived] You received 440 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[NumericReceived] You received 350 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[GameplayAnnounce] MJG@mjg82 has acquired a Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 350 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Contraband

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 350 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You received 350 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You received 350 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[NumericReceived] You received 490 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 490 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[GameplayAnnounce] Academy Personel@omegashinzon has acquired a Ferengi D'Kora Marauder!

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Water Purification Systems

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[NumericReceived] You received 350 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Water Purification Systems

[NumericReceived] You received 400 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Astrometric Probes

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Provisions x 2

[CombatAlert] Sir, we've engaged the enemy!

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2

[GameplayAnnounce] Jureth@Jureth has acquired a Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer!

[NumericReceived] You received 300 Energy Credits

[GameplayAnnounce] Festus@zephrim has acquired a Tal Shiar Adapted Destroyer!

[NumericReceived] You received 490 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Astrometric Probes

[NumericReceived] You received 440 Energy Credits

[NumericReceived] You received 440 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Water Purification Systems

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[NumericReceived] You received 350 Energy Credits

[ItemReceived] Item acquired: Communication Arrays

[ItemReceived] Items acquired: Medical Supplies x 2
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,750
# 85
07-28-2013, 10:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aarons9 View Post
it doesnt look like the devs are going to own up to the nerf on contraband..
Why would you expect anything else? They refuse to talk about odds but happily tell of what the tables include.

First they kill the console market then talk about how now you get more rare commodities, only Cryptic! Lol!!

Besides, the KDF contraband generation has been the target of a nerf for quite some time now. That was already clear and even expected with dread since they mentioned making the KDF a "complete faction".
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Career Officer
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 88
# 86
07-28-2013, 10:56 AM
hmm i must check this out

Last edited by captaintpol; 07-28-2013 at 07:26 PM.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 281
# 87
07-28-2013, 11:12 AM
i used to use the advanced slavers til i stopped flying carriers. i had heard that they were broken and never thought twice about using them again. then i see the elite ones available and upon reading the forums people were saying that the drops were ok. i purchased them at [imho] great expense, got into my carrier and farmed n'vak for 5 hours straight... i cannot verify any ec received but i can say i did not get one rare commodity nor any prisoners let alone any cb. i was very disappointed to say the least.

i figured i would give it one more try and the next day went back into n'vak for a couple hours. i watched for any drops carefully. there were NONE!!! needless to say my carrier is once again in dry-dock and the elites have been put into my bank >

some will say just be patient they will steel eventually, but what about the weekend warriors that don't spend hours and hours in one zone? it seems that they are getting it even worse.

in any case elites are very pricy and i would like to suggest increasing the chance\drop rate and\or lowering the cost to get them as they are useless in my humble opinion.
Captain
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 926
# 88
07-28-2013, 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by captaintpol View Post
I don't know about anybody else but I still get my 200 contraband in 8 hours from a kdf mission with a macro
im only getting about 50 a night..
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Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 1,352
# 89
07-28-2013, 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by badname834854 View Post
It was never "insane" in the first place.
How is something that was working as intended an exploit? A cheat?

The thing is, they just suddenly decided -arbitrarily- that some certain amount of [edit] EC [edit] was too much. Utter bullocks!
Funny, this sounds like you are talking about Tour the Galaxy, if you change "Contraband" to "EC"... ultimately, maybe it would be a good idea to allocate more payroll hours to the folks working on bugfixes and less to the folks that keep trying to make the game inconvenient. None of the quality of life "fixes" over the past few months have been game-breaking, but they certainly don't make the game better either. Rather the opposite, really.

Remember, it's a game. Stop trying to make it less fun and I might feel more inclined to spend money. That Lifetime Subscription Sale really ought to be posted after you do something good, by the way, rather than after mail, exchange, Tour, and Slaver "fixes", lol. Just saying...
Captain
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,061
# 90
07-29-2013, 11:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by prestonpool View Post
then tell my why Cryptic I drop from 10-25 contraband before the patch to a measly 1 an hour now how the hell is this more I ask you? Fix this ASAP I have several toons which are dependant on my contraband farming and I have not got the time to wait hours on end for 10 contraband as now it will take me 10 hours for just 10 contraband this is insulting our intelligence by saying otherwise
That's because as a Fed, we'll be lucky if we can make 10 Contrband / day by running every single doff missions out there all day long that can reward it. And that's if someone is using nothing but the best of the best purple doff(s) for the job and they still sometimes fail. On average, I think a Fed can make about 6 contrabands per day using best of the best purple doff. Compared to a Klingon who used slavers, picking up 25 contraband / hour, no wonder some of you are making 200+ contraband / day.

I mean do we really need to compare 200 to 6 to see what's insane about this difference?

Then a while ago, I recall a conversation that a few Fed and I have at the exchange on DS9.

Fed Person 1: "Looking at these prices for the contraband make me really depress..."

Fed Person 2: "I know, it makes me no want to sell."

Me: "That's what I do, I stop placing them on the exchange when the prices are this low, to diminish the supply of contrabands."

Fed Person 1: "Yean, but would that help?"

Me: "It's all about supply & demand, enough people withhold their supply, the price will rise, I once cornered the Earth refugee market and monopolized it:

Fed Person 2" "You'd be surprised how stupid people can be."


Naturally, with Klingons dumping contraband by the truck loads, their prices have seen so low for so long. Now that this is being fixed, we see contraband price starting to climb to more reasonable level. Sorry Klingons, but this is great news for us.
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