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# 21
08-09-2013, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by timejumpers View Post
The op has no credibility to say what is good or bad for this game talking about what's balanced with a console . How about you actually push a button by your self that might bring some balance oh wait then you would suck.
Sad panda! Enough said lol.

I don't particularly venerate the pandas, but one should take their input seriously. They're not trolls or anything like that.
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# 22
08-09-2013, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by naz4 View Post
I think Husanak touched on this a while ago, but the more and more i think about it, the more and more it makes sense and i have to grudgingly agree.

If there are (for the sake of argument) 30 over powered consoles, but you only have 10 slots in a ship, which 10 of the 30 would you take (not even taking into consideration standard consoles)?

This way, there would be more variety in the game and Cryptic won't have to worry about "micro balance" at all.

Now, they can release as many ships, consoles, pets etc. (which they are doing now) and not have to worry about "balance". As long as they have fixed ship slots, they will balance through slots rather than micro manage / tweak powers.

I'm not saying I agree or like this (personally, i think it stinks), but the way their business model is working and from what they have said / not said in the past, this seems the most logical choice for Cryptic.

If we can't face this fact, we should probably move on to pastures new.

I think Cryptpic made the biggest mistake in not making PvP a priority sooner. Look at DOTA 2 and LoL - All about PvP and very successful.
Now imagine if it had become a priority in season 2 - We might have been having full on International e-sport tournaments by now with real prizes and real publicity. Not "does my bum look big in this" outfits in the Zen store (Rant over...)

Hope you see what i'm getting at.
I've been saying this for awhile now.

An almost given is going full tactical consoles. For my Fleet Defiant, that means I have 5 consoles to work with. Then throw in musts like the Tachyokinetic Converter and Assimilated Module. Now I have 3 consoles to work with.

I prefer passive consoles over ability consoles (except for the Cloaking Device) and I'm obsessed with turn rate. So, that really only give me one console to work with.

With the AMP warp cores, I'm going to need Plasmonic Leech, so now I have no consoles I can swap out. Well, I do swap out the Cloaking Device in certain scenarios.

But, if another captain were to decide to stuff as many ability consoles as they can on their ship, that means less passive consoles and 2-5 mins of them being substantially weaker than my ship.
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# 23
08-09-2013, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by timejumpers View Post
random uninformed rant.
How about you stop drinking other people's kool-aid, think for yourself (don't worry it's not actually impossible) and stop peddling idiotic rumors and heresay?


These are the buttons most of us push. The rest is coordination, teamwork and skill.

W "+invertibleup$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
S "+invertibledown$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
A "+left$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
D "+right$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
E "throttleadjust .25$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
Q "throttleadjust -.25$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"


Feel free to use them, and while you're at it HTFU cupcake.


Last edited by ussultimatum; 08-09-2013 at 09:10 AM.
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# 24
08-09-2013, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
How about you stop drinking other people's kool-aid, think for yourself (don't worry it's not actually impossible) and stop peddling idiotic rumors and heresay?


These are the buttons most of us push. The rest is coordination, teamwork and skill.

W "+invertibleup$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
S "+invertibledown$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
A "+left$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
D "+right$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
E "throttleadjust .25$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
Q "throttleadjust -.25$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"


Feel free to use them, and while you're at it HTFU cupcake.
Lol we almost have the same keybind, well I have a 1/3 of it. I stop at power exec distribute shields... I'm curious to know which abilities you slot in 99, 98, 97, 96. I'm thinking epts/tact team copies? You know what, I think I might just do that myself. Trolls have their usefulness I guess, thanks for provoking the panda!!!
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Last edited by deokkent; 08-09-2013 at 09:32 AM.
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# 25
08-09-2013, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ussultimatum View Post
How about you stop drinking other people's kool-aid, think for yourself (don't worry it's not actually impossible) and stop peddling idiotic rumors and heresay?


These are the buttons most of us push. The rest is coordination, teamwork and skill.

W "+invertibleup$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
S "+invertibledown$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
A "+left$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
D "+right$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
E "throttleadjust .25$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"
Q "throttleadjust -.25$$+power_exec Distribute_Shields $$ +trayexecbytray 9 9 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 8 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 7 $$ +trayexecbytray 9 6"


Feel free to use them, and while you're at it HTFU cupcake.
I think you better check with your fleetmates you know the one i was talking about in the first place that you felt you had to defend.
i know to be in a fleet i wont mention you have to blindly defend all the bs they use. i feel bad for you it must suck being a part of the b team or c team in the unnamed fleet and have to do there dirty work.
But we all know what buttons pixel recognition pushes for you or wait maybe the unnamed fleet doesnt give the b and c team those pixels.
Dont make yourself look a fool. If you want to defend something that has already been admitted to by the unnamed fleet then by all means make an arse of yourself you wouldnt be the first one to do so.
And yes we have all heard it before about that great teamwork before in opvp after the unnamed fleet was accused for the past 2 years and yes most of the blind sheep believed.
When an unkown player would joke or atleast most of the blind sheep thought he was joking about the hax tool.
You know the old hide in plain site tactic that worked for so long.
How shocked were all the blind sheep when it turned out its true. the tool really exists. Not only that but the unnamed player made a post on these very forums with a link to it.
With a pixel recognition command that according to the fleet didnt work.Hmmm why did it not work why after lor was the unnamed fleet not in the q?
Oh wait cryptic made some changes that made there pixel recognition not work.Then all the blind sheep said ohh it doesnt work anymore lets move on.
Well all it took was the unnamed player to make a few changes to the script change some colors and bam it works again lets pvp lol. so keep being a blind sheep and programmer vs programmer will live long and prosper in sto.
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# 26
08-09-2013, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by deokkent View Post
Lol we almost have the same keybind, well I have a 1/3 of it. I stop at power exec distribute shields... I'm curious to know which abilities you slot in 99, 98, 97, 96.
It depends on the ship, but these are typically the powers slotted there:

> EPTx (2 to 4 total powers)
> Hangar(s) if available
> GDF if available
> BO copies for pre-loading, if available
> Torpedo powers for pre-loading, if available
> Aux to Batts if available.


It's very flexible, and allows me to have nearly the same keybind layout across multiple characters.

All I need to do is slot what powers I want in those sections of the bar as needed.



Quote:
Originally Posted by deokkent View Post
I'm thinking epts/tact team copies? You know what, I think I might just do that myself. Trolls have their usefulness I guess, thanks for provoking the panda!!!
EPTx always, Tac Team never.

Tac team (or Sci Team) is something I always manually activate in order to make sure that both escorts don't accidentally toss 2x TT onto the same ally at the same time.

Other powers like CRF, HE, TSS, TB, any DBB I have, any Torp Launcher I might have, etc are all fired manually. It's the only way to have full fine-tuned control over them.


Last edited by ussultimatum; 08-09-2013 at 12:17 PM.
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# 27
08-09-2013, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by timejumpers View Post
blah blah blah
Let me know when you're able to think for yourself, and not just repeat someone else's words.

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# 28
08-09-2013, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by timejumpers View Post
The op has no credibility to say what is good or bad for this game talking about what's balanced with a console . How about you actually push a button by your self that might bring some balance oh wait then you would suck.
In Fact, the OP is among the most credible members of our community, love him or hate him.
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# 29
08-09-2013, 12:03 PM
Friendly advice, guys... please tone down the hostility a few notches, okay?

We're well past the "smack talk" stage at this point and I have to assume a few people have temporarily forgotten the forum rules.

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/an...php?f=128&a=51

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# 30
08-09-2013, 01:21 PM
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