Captain
Join Date: Nov 2012
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# 51
08-08-2013, 04:37 PM
Thats cool man... your a long time friend... glad you didn't take offense. I admit I am slow on the who is in what fleet anymore stuff. Granted if you where doing the asking I owe you both an apology then.

So I apology for my misunderstanding... Devolvedone and Shift. Hope you accept it I mean it.

I do hope you both join and get your friend to join fight club. Trust me after you run a few good matches you will see the advantage of getting your guys to view it as training on some level.

Learning how to anticipate random other good players in matches that stretch the limits of both sides improve us all... there is so much more to premade playing then just target calling... sometimes its that 4th string guy you have playing second sci noticing something and reacting just 1s faster that makes the difference.

See ya in game. Thanks for engaging the conversation.
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Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
Careful what you wish for Trip... the Critz boys might get sick of Big walking robots and Warplanes. lol

Frankly Trip... the Opvp bug making... and the fleet running of the ques at all hours of the day is part of the problem right now. It hurts pvp uptake... have you ever talked to one of the new kids pugging ?

I don't mean responding to there "haxors" calls in zone... I mean in fact PMing them after a match and talking to them.

I see plenty of people every day pvping that I assume are afking for marks... after talking to some of them I realize... there just frustrated. Some matches they try... some they give up on.

I am not trying to blame you or any other one person Shift... we are ALL GUILTY of it.

You know I'm just as bad... I have done the same with SOG and Grethor and Critz teams... In fact I remember you going off more then once in OrganizedPvP after having to face us more then a hanful of times in an evening.

I am not asking you to stop teaming up and playing... I'm simply asking you guys to take a step back now and then... ask a few of those new kids to join both Opvp and TD... and come in and run some TD style fight club matches. I know you will have fun... I know everyone will improve player wise. I also 100% believe you guys will have an easier time finding premade matches... as you will befriend people from other fleets you meet at fight club.

Don't be all defensive Shift... Join the channel please you would be a great add.

You disrespect our fleet with names like "Noca Core" and i'm not supposed to be defensive? I will not join your channel or bother spreading the word about it. There is nothing wrong with opvp except for players like you who try to siphon players away from the channel. The very thing you are doing with your Fight club channel you could be doing in opvp. you CHOOSE not to. And don't lecture me about inviting people to opvp or private messaging players to try and help them out.

"Join the OrganizedPvP channel and team up with an opvpteam. Talk pvp, ask for build advice, find a PvP fleet. Become apart of the PvP Community."

That is my keybind that i post after matches when i make opvp teams. I've invited several players to the channel and onto our teamspeak to discuss builds and team play. The only other bind i publicly post is our fleet recruiting message which i also do occasionally after pvp matches. I do my part to support and encourage growth in our pvp community. And I will continue to do so. in the official pvp channel of Star Trek Online. THE ORGANIZEDPVP channel.

Let no other player discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Though you may walk alone through looming shadows of doubt cast upon you by your enemies. Forge your heart with iron casting its shape out of only your pure will to push forward. You will not be denied eventually.
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# 53
08-08-2013, 05:04 PM
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As it is, we'll see if Cryptic decides to do anything to revitalize PvP.
Oh sweet naive Blue...
Captain
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# 54
08-08-2013, 05:28 PM
edit: Never mind - it was some sort of twisted and perverse insult...though, I'm not really seeing it.

Willard the Rat, Klingon Science Officer

Swordsman has a bounce to it...

Last edited by virusdancer; 08-08-2013 at 05:42 PM.
Captain
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# 55
08-08-2013, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by tripwire690 View Post
You disrespect our fleet with names like "Noca Core" and i'm not supposed to be defensive? I will not join your channel or bother spreading the word about it. There is nothing wrong with opvp except for players like you who try to siphon players away from the channel. The very thing you are doing with your Fight club channel you could be doing in opvp. you CHOOSE not to. And don't lecture me about inviting people to opvp or private messaging players to try and help them out.

"Join the OrganizedPvP channel and team up with an opvpteam. Talk pvp, ask for build advice, find a PvP fleet. Become apart of the PvP Community."

That is my keybind that i post after matches when i make opvp teams. I've invited several players to the channel and onto our teamspeak to discuss builds and team play. The only other bind i publicly post is our fleet recruiting message which i also do occasionally after pvp matches. I do my part to support and encourage growth in our pvp community. And I will continue to do so. in the official pvp channel of Star Trek Online. THE ORGANIZEDPVP channel.
I am glad to hear you are promoting the community shift. We for sure disagree on a few things, pushing things forward though we both agree on that no doubt. I respect your views and we will have to agree to disagree.

The Noca Core thing... if you didn't take offense it wouldn't be so funny. You guys merged with another major fleet and dropped there name. Couldn't help but keep it alive at least a little bit. lol

Honestly TD is about dropping the air of seriousness that has infected the top tier pvp fleets. (yes I just lumped you in with top tier... not sure if its right to do that) Its a joke sorry don't go all serious mode on that one. Really come and fight club with us...its not about what fleet your in or who your friends are or who your better then or who you dislike... its about getting some great pvp, and feeling alive in this game. (I know that is something you hunt for cause you GG when you loose close matches I have see you do it. lol)

The choice is yours of course... the channel isn't private your welcome any time. You don't have to leave Opvp in fact you should still promote Opvp of course for new kids that is the place they should be asking for advice ect. When we are running matches one night I will ask you to join in Opvp I hope you come and see what you are missing. I think at that point you will see the value of the channel and join. At least I hope...if not we again will just have to agree to disagree.

Have fun, nuke and scan buddy.
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# 56
08-08-2013, 06:01 PM
/channel_Join OrganizedPVP


why make another channel?
To boldly go where no FAWer has ever FAWed before.

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Captain
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# 57
08-08-2013, 06:36 PM
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/channel_Join OrganizedPVP


why make another channel?
Its very simple really.

OrganizedPvP is likely the greatest thing we have done as a community. It really is the defacto PvP channel in STO.

I am not asking anyone to leave Opvp... quite the opposite. We should all be in OrganizedPvP using it in a way it was intended to be used. Setting up Premade matches. Premade Vs Premade.

Tyler Durden isn't about that man.

The matches we setup in Tyler Durden are NOT preset teams ever. Teams are welcome to come and you best be prepared to fight each other. In order to balance teams we need to move people around. You will be playing with your friends you simply may be shooting at them... its liberating to not worry about your fleet and take things so serious all the time.

People jump into large 10v10s in Opvp all the time... and its fun because it can be so random. Imagine doing 80% of your pvp that way... setting up 5v5s... 3v3s whatever people feel like running. Balancing the sides as close as you can to ensure everyone gets a nose bleed.

Allow me to butcher a Tyler Durden quote for you....

"You're not your fleet. You're not how much EC you have in the bank. You're not the ship you pilot. You're not the contents of your reputation rewards. You're not your f***** khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing c*** of the world."

Honestly you join Tyler Durden to Fight... Everyone fights... the point isn't who wins or who looses... the point is that you FIGHT.

The ques are full of Junk most of the day... this is the way around that... when you feel like banding together with your fleet mates and your headsets go for it... and find matches in OrganizedPvP thats what its for.
When the messenger comes to appropriate your profits ... kill the messenger.
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# 58 OrganizedPvp
08-08-2013, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
Its very simple really.

OrganizedPvP is likely the greatest thing we have done as a community. It really is the defacto PvP channel in STO.

I am not asking anyone to leave Opvp... quite the opposite. We should all be in OrganizedPvP using it in a way it was intended to be used. Setting up Premade matches. Premade Vs Premade.

Tyler Durden isn't about that man.

The matches we setup in Tyler Durden are NOT preset teams ever. Teams are welcome to come and you best be prepared to fight each other. In order to balance teams we need to move people around. You will be playing with your friends you simply may be shooting at them... its liberating to not worry about your fleet and take things so serious all the time.

People jump into large 10v10s in Opvp all the time... and its fun because it can be so random. Imagine doing 80% of your pvp that way... setting up 5v5s... 3v3s whatever people feel like running. Balancing the sides as close as you can to ensure everyone gets a nose bleed.

Allow me to butcher a Tyler Durden quote for you....

"You're not your fleet. You're not how much EC you have in the bank. You're not the ship you pilot. You're not the contents of your reputation rewards. You're not your f***** khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing c*** of the world."

Honestly you join Tyler Durden to Fight... Everyone fights... the point isn't who wins or who looses... the point is that you FIGHT.

The ques are full of Junk most of the day... this is the way around that... when you feel like banding together with your fleet mates and your headsets go for it... and find matches in OrganizedPvP thats what its for.
Organizedpvp is exactly that. Organized PvP. 5v5, 4v4, 3v3, 2v2, 1v1, premade or opvp pug vs opvp pug. Its THAT simple.

Let no other player discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Though you may walk alone through looming shadows of doubt cast upon you by your enemies. Forge your heart with iron casting its shape out of only your pure will to push forward. You will not be denied eventually.
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# 59
08-08-2013, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tripwire690 View Post
Organizedpvp is exactly that. Organized PvP. 5v5, 4v4, 3v3, 2v2, 1v1, premade or opvp pug vs opvp pug. Its THAT simple.
Your wrong its that simple.

Leave your fleet drama at the door and join Tyler Durden... or don't the choice is yours.

If you choose to join don't leave Opvp... keep that and use it as intended find teams for Nova Core (see I am being nice) to fight. Those Opvp fights you are talking about are nothing more then both sides trying to setup a "premade" team and all the junk that entails. Play the game to play the game man... you will have much more fun.

Join TD to just fight... don't worry about who your wing man will be or how many sci you have or who has rep and who doesn't... who's the nuke, who's the hammer... who's my pocket healer. Come and be ready for true fights... Everything the ques should be, and sadly are not.

I still hope you will come shift... you are the sort of player who should be able to look at a group of 10 guys subjectively and shuffle them around to ensure great matches.

Either way see ya in game.
When the messenger comes to appropriate your profits ... kill the messenger.
Lt. Commander
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
Your wrong its that simple.

Leave your fleet drama at the door and join Tyler Durden... or don't the choice is yours.

If you choose to join don't leave Opvp... keep that and use it as intended find teams for Nova Core (see I am being nice) to fight. Those Opvp fights you are talking about are nothing more then both sides trying to setup a "premade" team and all the junk that entails. Play the game to play the game man... you will have much more fun.

Join TD to just fight... don't worry about who your wing man will be or how many sci you have or who has rep and who doesn't... who's the nuke, who's the hammer... who's my pocket healer. Come and be ready for true fights... Everything the ques should be, and sadly are not.

I still hope you will come shift... you are the sort of player who should be able to look at a group of 10 guys subjectively and shuffle them around to ensure great matches.

Either way see ya in game.
Your wrong its THAT simple. And what is this drama crap you speak of? OR-gah-NEYES-duh pee-VEE-pee. So we are clear. Its not Premadepvp channel. When Kax announces "BATTLEKAX TEAM FORMING. X UP!!" I don't recall him begging for specifically 2 sci and 3 tacs. Or 2 engineers and 3 sci. When I say "x up for Team pvp" or "x up for Team 7 PvP" I don't beg for you to have abc and d before I will invite you. Again your making **** up. Mai Kai is the same when he puts a team together. So yah. When players make opvp teams the people they ask to join aren't interrogated, processed and screened with a full background check before they are allowed to queue with us. We simply take whoever x's up first.

The simple team forming you say happens everyday in opvp. There are just too many indians and not enough chiefs. The problem is when Kax is putting together an opvp team its usually only him. When I am putting an opvp team together it is only me. If there were more players making opvp teams we would have more opvp team vs opvp team private matches going on. But there aren't. You certainly don't help. But it's as simple as putting your own opvp team together and challenging the other opvp team. And if there are two 5 man opvp teams thats half of a 10v10. So don't act like opvp doesn't represent the "little guy". Your full of it. And your channel is nothing more than an attempt to make opvp look bad. As if its lacking something. The channel itself isn't lacking. It's the players that aren't taking enough advantage of what the channel COULD BE that are lacking.

Now you go off to your little fight club and continue to further fracture what little community us pew pew people have. Mai Kai, Kax, and myself will continue to do what we can when we can for the Opvp community members from day to day.

Let no other player discourage you from what you believe you can achieve in PvP. Though you may walk alone through looming shadows of doubt cast upon you by your enemies. Forge your heart with iron casting its shape out of only your pure will to push forward. You will not be denied eventually.

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