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# 41
08-10-2013, 12:47 AM
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Apparently, not with hazard emitters. Sure it removes the DoT, but I still see the DPT debuff icon pop up, so I'm assuming the damage resistance reduction is not cleared, unless it's a UI bug.
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# 42
08-10-2013, 01:06 AM
Nevermind.
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# 43
08-10-2013, 01:16 AM
When did 2 players who may have a similar build, who may have been from the same fleet, who may have known each other be considered a premade?

If I bring 5 players like that into the queues to find an elusive premade thats in them, does that means I technically have two and a half?
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# 44
08-10-2013, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by aquitaine985 View Post
When did 2 players who may have a similar build, who may have been from the same fleet, who may have known each other be considered a premade?

If I bring 5 players like that into the queues to find an elusive premade thats in them, does that means I technically have two and a half?
No?

Hey, all I said is that they may have been premade, working together. I did not state that with 100% certainty.
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# 45
08-10-2013, 05:11 AM
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Well in fairness.... some people don't worry about the score board quite so much.

3 v 2 is often seen as lopsided by many... and they will sit it out. I have no doubt this player was not your typical AFK player waiting for you to make them D.

Sometimes when sides are equal the side with a bit more skill wins... or in this case perhaps the superior equip / ships + skill.

Not saying anything about your build cause I don't know you at all... a little think I love on my torp boats lately though... Aux to Damp with one of the new Purple Sulaban Matter anti Matter Doffs..... awsome combo on the EBC ships.
Well, think about it. . .a T'Varo (could be retro or fleet) and a Vor'cha (presumably the retrofit or miror versions) versus a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship (arguably the best DPSing-and-speed-tanking escort in the game) and a Jem'hadar Heavy Escort Carrier (a ship able to take hits and give them out, and reasonably nimble for its size and hull). That's not an even match, not unless the KDF-side pilots are clearly more skilled. . .and that's pretty easy to figure out within 20-30 seconds.

It's like someone claiming that a matchup of two BoPs versus an escort and a cruiser/carrier is 'fair' because the numbers are even. Numerical superiority is only one factor. Weight classes (i.e., BoP versus escort), class roles, etc, also factor in. . .and anyone who's spent any decent amount of time PvPing (especially in a place like Ker'rat) should know this.
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# 46
08-10-2013, 05:20 AM
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Well, think about it. . .a T'Varo (could be retro or fleet) and a Vor'cha (presumably the retrofit or miror versions) versus a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship (arguably the best DPSing-and-speed-tanking escort in the game) and a Jem'hadar Heavy Escort Carrier (a ship able to take hits and give them out, and reasonably nimble for its size and hull). That's not an even match, not unless the KDF-side pilots are clearly more skilled. . .and that's pretty easy to figure out within 20-30 seconds.

It's like someone claiming that a matchup of two BoPs versus an escort and a cruiser/carrier is 'fair' because the numbers are even. Numerical superiority is only one factor. Weight classes (i.e., BoP versus escort), class roles, etc, also factor in. . .and anyone who's spent any decent amount of time PvPing (especially in a place like Ker'rat) should know this.
The person the OP was talking about came in here though and said it was 3 to 1 pretty quickly for them lol... that means that either they farmed one of the 2 for 3 or they wiped the 2 of them then one of them after a respawn before he/she bowed out... it was clearly in there view uneven. In my view the OP is simply a sore looser... sounds to me like he was in a 2v2 and lost... where is the crime in that... it happens when you get out classed... sure if they had two varos picking on one guys 15 times they could have won... but what is it we are going for here... fun matches or that sort of must win at all cost crap.

Frankly if it had been me I would have warped the second I got into a failed que match like that.... I would have spammed Tyler Durden Fight Club channel in zone and said see ya there or in the next que... peace.

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# 47
08-10-2013, 07:59 AM
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The person the OP was talking about came in here though and said it was 3 to 1 pretty quickly for them lol... that means that either they farmed one of the 2 for 3 or they wiped the 2 of them then one of them after a respawn before he/she bowed out... it was clearly in there view uneven. In my view the OP is simply a sore looser... sounds to me like he was in a 2v2 and lost... where is the crime in that... it happens when you get out classed... sure if they had two varos picking on one guys 15 times they could have won... but what is it we are going for here... fun matches or that sort of must win at all cost crap.

Frankly if it had been me I would have warped the second I got into a failed que match like that.... I would have spammed Tyler Durden Fight Club channel in zone and said see ya there or in the next que... peace.
Well, just to set things straight, the 3 to 1 figure was for the single player who sat things out, not the team. He posted a few pages back.
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# 48
08-10-2013, 09:41 AM
Hey lamid, was this the match we were in together the other day?

I think you were on your thirty toon. I remember you saying in zone you were sitting out becaus teams were uneven.

I was wondering what you were talking about in zone chat about a 2 man premade and your teammate complaining about something...

It wasn't a bad match by any means. What is the OP getting at I'm confused?
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# 49
08-10-2013, 10:07 AM
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Hey lamid, was this the match we were in together the other day?

I think you were on your thirty toon. I remember you saying in zone you were sitting out becaus teams were uneven.

I was wondering what you were talking about in zone chat about a 2 man premade and your teammate complaining about something...

It wasn't a bad match by any means. What is the OP getting at I'm confused?
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# 50
08-10-2013, 12:00 PM
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Well, just to set things straight, the 3 to 1 figure was for the single player who sat things out, not the team. He posted a few pages back.
Correct. I don't even remember what the score was at the time, it could have been balanced, or gone either way. But it really early on, too early on for me to adequately determine balance, when he chose to sit out.

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It wasn't a bad match by any means.
It's amazing how all of you act like you're such an authority on how that match went. It's as if you were all there watching! But, oh, wait......

And no, this is not about being a sore looser. I have played plenty of 5v5s and such where my team got stomped by the enemy. Those aren't good games, and they're hard to suffer through, but I accept that, because to an extent, those games aren't anyone's fault. It's just the luck of the draw on who you get picked to fight.

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What is the OP getting at I'm confused?
My point, if you haven't gotten yet (*sigh*), was that this game was qualitatively different, because it was the first where a teammate deliberately chose to sit out. After that choice was made, we were having a bad time. I felt somewhat stressed, and the Klink on our team was getting eaten alive, so I'd imagine he was having a horrible time. lamid deliberately let the game go into imbalance, and thus he deliberately let the team suffer, both performance-wise and in spirit. When you play a team game, you do NOT let your team suffer under any circumstances. At least, that makes sense to me. It's just as bad as, say, intentionally sitting out in an STF, or as any attempt to troll you team or to troll others. Unacceptable.

I swear people, I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall. Learn to read a thread.
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