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# 161
08-23-2013, 04:41 PM
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Or Insurrection? Or Final Frontier?
Hey, now! I'll agree Insurrection sucked... but Final Frontier is one of my favorites. Okay, okay... every single premise in the story is insipidly stupid and cheesy. But some of the characters are quite entertaining (like General Kordd) and it has two redeeming bits that allow me to overlook everything else... Kirk asking God for some ID and Uhura dancing naked on a dune top! (yeah, yeah... she's in silhouette... but I have an EXCELLENT imagination and have had a crush on her since I was 10!)
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# 162
08-23-2013, 04:56 PM
People clearly have not even contemplated just how effing [insert derogatory swear word here --> ___ ] the 2009 film is.

The final frontier is fantastic compared to it.

Yes I know it re-booted the franchise.

But in one way, I could not think of many more ways JJ could have done it worse.


While I agree, the alternate universe is a vile piece of crap, It is the only thing that is left.


Star Trek

NEEDS.A.TV.
TEEEE VEEEE

SERIES.

SET IN THE RUDDY PRIME UNIVERSE.

STICK ORIGINAL / PRIME UNIVERSE on the title AND I PROMISE FANS WILL FLOCK TO VIEW IT if given a competent writer and director.

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I did like ST:ID more than 09 because, whether failure in reality, JJ did try to make us Trekkies more welcome.
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# 163
08-23-2013, 05:10 PM
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People clearly have not even contemplated just how effing [insert derogatory swear word here --> ___ ] the 2009 film is.....
maybe because they were very entertained and it brought a nice glow of star trek love back into their hearts with the reintroduction of their favorite characters from the genre that they love so much. Also they respect the work done by the film and its actors in the homages that were presented which made the movie that much more entertaining.

but thats OK...if you shout and swear more, maybe you could convince someone to stand with you in your corner of angry desperation in the cliche' JJ bash that you are using as a defense of you opinion.


it's fine if you dont like it personally....it is not very cool if you are forcefully imposing your opinion onto others... because ultimately, they will just see you as obnoxious and never really take anything you say seriously thereafter.


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# 164
08-23-2013, 05:26 PM
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maybe because they were very entertained and it brought a nice glow of star trek love back into their hearts with the reintroduction of their favorite characters from the genre that they love so much. Also they respect the work done by the film and its actors in the homages that were presented which made the movie that much more entertaining.

but thats OK...if you shout and swear more, maybe you could convince someone to stand with you in your corner of angry desperation in the cliche' JJ bash that you are using as a defense of you opinion.


it's fine if you dont like it personally....it is not very cool if you are forcefully imposing your opinion onto others... because ultimately, they will just see you as obnoxious and never really take anything you say seriously thereafter.


As an action film: good.

As a Star Trek film, you tell me, right here ... (with Zero links please) why you think it reflects Star Trek.

I dare you.

Challenge Accepted?

Anyway, I was expressing my views of the 09 film, not forcing them on others.
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# 165
08-23-2013, 05:54 PM
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As an action film: good.

As a Star Trek film, you tell me, right here ... (with Zero links please) why you think it reflects Star Trek.

I dare you.

Challenge Accepted?

Anyway, I was expressing my views of the 09 film, not forcing them on others.
I gave you excellent examples of how the film reflects Star Trek..... you choose not to acknowledge them and proceeded to start making demands and confrontational dares.


anyway....I mentioned something about not taking what you say seriously, I stand by that.

...and... with the thread you made raving about how good the paper is in a magazine ..... I stand by the non-serious-taking statement.

sorry bud....but fwiw; enjoy your not-so-unique toys and the magazine subscription you ran to the corner store to frantically search for... you know, the one that has very nice high quality paper you so joyfully touted.



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# 166
08-23-2013, 06:07 PM
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I gave you excellent examples of how the film reflects Star Trek..... you choose not to acknowledge them and proceeded to start making demands and confrontational dares.


anyway....I mentioned something about not taking what you say seriously, I stand by that.

...and... with the thread you made raving about how good the paper is in a magazine ..... I stand by the non-serious-taking statement.

sorry bud....but fwiw; enjoy your not-so-unique toys and the magazine subscription you ran to the corner store to frantically search for... you know, the one that has very nice high quality paper you so joyfully touted.



I have not read the previous arguments. TL;DR.


As for my magazine, I like it, and I fail to understand why you ... I am not able to extrapolate your emotion / intent with accuracy, but I fail to understand why you

Either

a) Mock

b) make fun

c) being mean

d) all of the above


Also , please quote where I said anything on this thread about not being serious.
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# 167
08-23-2013, 06:14 PM
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I gave you excellent examples of how the film reflects Star Trek..... you choose not to acknowledge them and proceeded to start making demands and confrontational dares.


anyway....I mentioned something about not taking what you say seriously, I stand by that.

...and... with the thread you made raving about how good the paper is in a magazine ..... I stand by the non-serious-taking statement.

sorry bud....but fwiw; enjoy your not-so-unique toys and the magazine subscription you ran to the corner store to frantically search for... you know, the one that has very nice high quality paper you so joyfully touted.




Or where you referring to the Homage?
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# 168
08-23-2013, 07:20 PM
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I have not read the previous arguments. TL;DR.
That's your own fault then. On one hand you're asking him to provide info which he has, but then you acknowledge you don't want to bother dealing with it.

Lazy.

Hell you even admit to it being a good action flick. You just want to complain about how much you despise the fact it's a Star Trek movie. I hate to break this to you, but there are plenty of previous Trek incarnations which do a far greater disservice to the brand. Note the hiatus of Star Trek productions post Nemesis and Enterprise.


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# 169
08-24-2013, 08:46 AM
They listed "Star Trek IV: SAVE THE WHALES" as no.4 on their list of "Best Trek Movies - in order"... I wouldn't take them seriously...
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# 170
08-24-2013, 08:53 AM
People who dont like the new JJ trek seem to be the whiners who simply dont like change. Not saying this is everyone but thats what I see amongst my friends. I for one love it! I saw the 09 trek and it drew me into Star Trek. Immediately after watching it I went and got The Next Generation and loved that and all the series after.

I loved Into Darkness and cant wait for more JJ trek to come out!
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