Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,268
# 21
08-16-2013, 04:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightheropkn View Post
Is it a TERRIBLE ship? No...it's the same as any other 9 console ship, it'll get you buy but it's not "Strong"

I have 10ish or so 10 console ships, I swap between them for fun to fly something different, it's annoying that this ship which cost so much isn't even equal quality to other 10 console ships.

You can argue whether or not the Different forms are worth a console slot if you want (They aren't) but it's not fair that it's not at least even tilt with every other one I have.

I'm not asking for it to have 12 consoles, I just want it to be on par with the other Fleet Level ships.
You didn't read the thread before posting.

You aren't paying for this ship. For all intents and purposes, you've gotten this ship for free. You're getting un-ending subscription that pays for itself after a while, 500 zen a month (5 dollars), a wide variety of accolades, titles, costumes, and a few free respecs (each costing 5 dollars). By the time you've hit 1000 days, the ship is essentially free.

Now, if you bought a LTS when they were having that sale where getting a LTS immediately granted you access to the Veteran ship, and viewed that purchase as the 'cost' of getting that ship. . .then you are a fool who probably shouldn't have control over his/her own bank account, because you can't handle basic finance. Nobody in their right mind buys a LTS with the express purpose of getting that veteran ship.
tIqIpqu' 'ej nom tIqIp
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 8
# 22
08-16-2013, 06:36 PM
I made the topic my friend, so who didn't read it?
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 874
# 23
08-16-2013, 06:50 PM
My main is a Fed Joined Trill engineer... I ran the Chimera Class and the only thing I didn't like was the design. I know, it's a matter of taste.

But the ship is a beast. I ran Adv. Fleet AntiProtons beams on it with the quantum torpedoes and it is a beast. Then again, I ran her like a cruiser more than an escort and focused on shield and hull heals in the BOFF layout. Even with 9 console slots, she can be quite a handful when set up properly. You just have to find the build that fits your playstyle.
Captain
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,840
# 24
08-17-2013, 03:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightheropkn View Post
I'm a federation player, but I think this is equally bull for every faction.

Why is it that the Veteran Ships are not even on par with Fleet and $50 bundle ships? The Veteran ships are $200 at minimum but not even worth using over any of the 10 console ships?

It's pretty crazy to think that you give your best subscribers a junk "gift" are you afraid that if the Veteran ships are good that they'll stop spending money? I've got every Federation ship but 2-3 and buy Zen basically weekly, your Lifetime people are probably mostly your biggest customers.

Not only do these ships not have 10 consoles, but they are saddled with a junk Universal console which basically sticks them with 8 over all.

The looks and concepts of these ships are nice overall, but it's not right that they are so weak. For a ship that costs what you can buy at minimum 4 of the $50 dollar ship bundles for you'd think you would get a higher quality ship.

Start with giving all 3 10 console slots and fold in their special abilities off the consoles onto the actual ship and then it'd start feeling like an actual REWARD for being a lifetime subscriber.

After that we can talk about making them 5-3 Weapon configurations
Vet ships junk?
Have you ever tried the Galaxy -R?
Cryptic made that ship total and real utter crap.

I would sell my grandmas Car to get a BOFF layout like the chimera on my Galaxy -R.
Only 8 consoles? I couldn't care less TBH.


-> -> -> STO players unite and say NO to ARC <- <- <-
Starfleet Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 148
# 25
08-17-2013, 04:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yreodred View Post
Vet ships junk?
Have you ever tried the Galaxy -R?
Cryptic made that ship total and real utter crap.

I would sell my grandmas Car to get a BOFF layout like the chimera on my Galaxy -R.
Only 8 consoles? I couldn't care less TBH.
Amen to that!

The opinions expressed within my posts may not reflect those of yourself, or others. However in a world where free speech is still valued (mostly) I am entitled to them. Respect & mutual understanding are the first steps towards the human race solving its problems!
Career Officer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 92
# 26
08-17-2013, 05:01 AM
There is another way to look at the Veteran ship. The console it has does a number of things which under normal circumstances you would need 2 or 3 consoles depending on the type of regular console used. The net effect of this is that you would end up with the same number of remaining console slots regardless of whether the ship had 10 slots.

However, if you are not used to playing with that sort of console, then that's another thing. Keep an open mind and look at it from another perspective. They have advised us that this Veteran ship is really for Veterans which assumes that they have enough experience to handle such a ship and the challenge it brings.
Ensign
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 8
# 27
08-17-2013, 08:13 AM
Your right it's more challenging to drive a Tier 4 ship instead of a Tier 5 one, but that doesn't mean it's good

No matter how you shake it, it will less DPS then any of the Tier 5 Escorts, the transformation sequences aren't that big of a buff.

Also I agree that the Dread sucks, but they don't know what they want to do with it yet, it is what it is.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,699
# 28
08-17-2013, 08:34 AM
Still don't see the suck.

Chimera gives you a solid regenerative reinforcement when you need it, a sweet buff to tactical systems when you want to go on the offence, a ripping phaser lotus, and a nice bonus tachyon attack.

And, as has been pointed out already, it's actually a destroyer (presumable something between a cruiser and an escort). And when I first got it, I actually thought it was a cruiser for a while -- be it somewhat weaker. But my point is: you get something that could easily be mistaken for a cruiser of sorts, which comes with plenty of nice extra features; and turns like an escort to boot.
Captain
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 8,313
# 29
08-17-2013, 08:42 AM
The Chimera is a solid T5 ship. No, it's not a Fleet-quality T5.5 ship, but it's a good ship none the less and gives Gold players another option for a ship choice if they aren't looking to buy one from the C-Store.

And it's not as though this game requires T5.5 ships to be useful. The majority of STO players don't PvP and in PvE, even Elite STFs, I can complete an event just as quickly in a free Patrol Escort using drops I acquired while playing as I can in my Fleet Defiant with MK XII purple everything. The difference in play-time comes down to seconds.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
Empire Veteran
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 176
# 30
08-17-2013, 05:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timezarg View Post

Now, if you bought a LTS when they were having that sale where getting a LTS immediately granted you access to the Veteran ship, and viewed that purchase as the 'cost' of getting that ship. . .then you are a fool who probably shouldn't have control over his/her own bank account, because you can't handle basic finance. Nobody in their right mind buys a LTS with the express purpose of getting that veteran ship.
Hahah,this times a million.^

It's a free ship you get as a reward/perk. And as a free ship, it's not bad.

Poor newbies, they seem to see the LTS as a package full of stuff they are paying $300/200 for. Back in my day, an LTS was an LTS. Every 100 days we got a cool new toy as a bonus. By the time the vet ships came out, the LTS had long paid for itself and the ship was a cool new freebie like all the other rewards we got.

Joined August 2009
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:44 AM.