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# 1 New Life for Nebula?
08-16-2013, 12:39 PM
With the Nebula giveaway going on as I type this, I am wondering about whether a case can be made for new life for the Nebula...

It's main claim to fame is that it's a very good anti-cloak vessel with the Tachyon Detection Grid. Other than that, it's a bit of a hybrid between a cruiser and a sci vessel and not necessarily the best of each. I've never seen a lot of praise for the Nebula.

But that was before we had an entire faction whose ships all possess the ability to battle cloak and whose crew tends to give extra bonuses to cloaking.

Can we make a case for giving new life to the Nebula? Any effective warbird-wrecker builds out there? Or does it have a special place in a PvP team that's facing warbirds?

I had a Nebula even before the giveaway, but I've never taken the time to build it out. Might be fun to see what one can do. Possible, or Pipe Dream?
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# 2
08-16-2013, 12:56 PM
Maybe build a combo scanner/healer out of it? With a ltcmdr eng, plus the universal lt, could make a ship with extends, Aux2SIF, and TSS, lots of aux to power those heals, plus subsystem-targeting, anti-cloak, and maybe use the Cmdr Sci spot for an anti spam ability?

Admittedly the Vesta could probably do the same thing better, but a free Neb vs 2500z Vesta...
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# 3
08-16-2013, 01:04 PM
I kinda' hoped it would be the Nebula for the giveaway for my rather new sci.captain. I'm glad to have it, just pulled her out of spacedock and she looks really nice.

I'm yet to play around with the ship and start building it properly, but I assume it could be tuned to be a great stealth detector. Especially if you have the console from the refit nebula at Tier 3. With those 2 consoles combined and a proper investment in player skills and sci.consoles, I assume it could light up cloaking ships like glowing beacons.

However I haven't done any real PvP since the release of LoR, so I'm not really sure how decloaking the Romulan ships (especially ones like T'Varo that can run at full aux) combined with the special Romulan & Reman Boff traits would work. I know that the Nebula will be able to detect the KDF cloaking ships because those lack the Romulan bonuses and because I have done it before in a Reconnaissance Science Vessel and the fleet Ambassador without the Nebula console.
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# 4
08-16-2013, 01:14 PM
I don't see how the giveaway with the Nebula is gong to bring new live to the ship.

The Feds had already been facing a faction with wide access to Cloaks even BEFORE the Romulan subfaction, believe it or not...

If you didn't care about cloak detection or dropping them before, you're really not going to care much for it now or do better with it. Even before LOR update and that Emerg.Pwr to Aux bug for detection a little while ago, there were some Fed players who were damn good at detection, but those guys are rare now, even with the advent of the Romulan subfaction.

The Nebula and Fleet Nebula had always been here (Fleet version later, of course). But most didn't care about trying to detect cloaked vessels before and just went on the boards to whine about Cloaks.
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# 5
08-16-2013, 01:17 PM
I'd love to see a Venture-style skin for it!
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# 6
08-16-2013, 01:30 PM
A lot of us will be exploring this as well! Although I have a Vesta, the Nebula is primarily a Science ship as opposed to a Sci-scort... not to put down the Vesta, it's just that being able to load cannons tends to shift the focus.

I'd look at DDIS' "The new PvP and ship build thread" about the Nebula. There's a CC Nebula that looks interesting.

Perhaps a strong hold and scramble ship to slow down the infected ships in STFs. It has fire power too, but it's not it's primary competence.

Anticloaking is best for PvP since in PvE NPC ships rarely cloak for more than a second or two.

I'd like to see if anyone has better suggestions or builds that they like.
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# 7
08-16-2013, 01:35 PM
The Nebula is a great torpedo boat/platform.

Unfortunately, the Vesta is pretty much the Nebula's successor as the most versatile and (potentially) tactically oriented science ship. Anything the Nebula can do, the Vesta can do better~ (save for taking hits to an exposed hull)
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# 8
08-16-2013, 01:36 PM
I'm already looking at a build based around using my Aegis set and maybe Tetryon Beams (might look at the Nukara set to go with the Aegis).
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# 9
08-16-2013, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by szerontzur View Post
The Nebula is a great torpedo boat/platform.

Unfortunately, the Vesta is pretty much the Nebula's successor as the most versatile and (potentially) tactically oriented science ship. Anything the Nebula can do, the Vesta can do better~ (save for taking hits to an exposed hull)
Of course... Vesta is a Sci-scort that's hard to beat, as far as Sci ships. But the Nebula is a new shiny toy to play with for a lot of players now. It provides the challenge of trying to tune it to do something useful, perhaps to be a new STF ship.

Personally, I have the Engineer's mentality, even if it's futile, in trying to make old things useful and maybe fill another niche. Creativity and challenge.
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# 10
08-16-2013, 02:03 PM
the ability to roll with 4 tac powers might just be enough to make it usefull.
but if its cant hold 7500dps for 25 seconds its just another victim boat.
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