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# 31
08-22-2013, 02:35 PM
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The problem is that the set features: ship interiors, bridge, costumes, weapons, etc are a huge part of any show's initial budget. Those costs are usually displaced over a 13-24 episode season - and hopefully several additional seasons as well. It's hard to recoup those costs on 2 hour TV movies.

For example, the first season of Defiance was budgeted for $40 million, but it's estimated that nearly half the original cost was set design for the city, set interiors, vehicles, weapons, makeup and clothing for all the species, etc. Season 2 of Defiance is coming it at around $25 million - an average of $2 million per episode - because most of the set costs are nonexistent for season 2.

For Trek to work on TV they need to get enough episodes out of the sets per season to justify their costs.
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# 32
08-22-2013, 03:56 PM
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Holy balls I wish I had that kind of money.
As is always the case to getting it... work hard, save your money, and marry well.
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# 33
08-22-2013, 04:29 PM
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The problem is that the set features: ship interiors, bridge, costumes, weapons, etc are a huge part of any show's initial budget. Those costs are usually displaced over a 13-24 episode season - and hopefully several additional seasons as well. It's hard to recoup those costs on 2 hour TV movies.

For example, the first season of Defiance was budgeted for $40 million, but it's estimated that nearly half the original cost was set design for the city, set interiors, vehicles, weapons, makeup and clothing for all the species, etc. Season 2 of Defiance is coming it at around $25 million - an average of $2 million per episode - because most of the set costs are nonexistent for season 2.

For Trek to work on TV they need to get enough episodes out of the sets per season to justify their costs.
It's not like they would need a whole lot of new sets each time, plus with CGI, they could potentially "fudge" some aspects. Maybe he should shoot for an animated version instead.
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# 34
08-22-2013, 05:12 PM
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Actually an idea that may work would be a series set onboard a Wells and could be called Star Trek: Temporal Incursions. With technology as it is right now there would be scope to interact with all past ST series, just like the DS9 episode Trials and Tribbleations
I support this idea. It both provides a huge degree of creative writing flexibility and pushes the Star Trek universe forwards instead of backwards or sideways.

As for set, costume, and character costs, a way to minimize these would be to follow a number of temporal agents on long-term assignments(like, for instance, serving aboard the Enterprise NX or running into Voyager), essentially creating multiple stories within the major plot line. These stories could tie into each other through being in the same place through different eras or connecting to some over-arching temporal conspiracy.

Anyway, that's just my idea for a future Star Trek TV or Netflix show.
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# 35
08-22-2013, 05:23 PM
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....or Netflix show.
intriguing concept.... 'A Netflix Original' has been producing some really good quality shows as of late.

I would definitely be interested.
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# 36
08-22-2013, 11:37 PM
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I support this idea. It both provides a huge degree of creative writing flexibility and pushes the Star Trek universe forwards instead of backwards or sideways.

As for set, costume, and character costs, a way to minimize these would be to follow a number of temporal agents on long-term assignments(like, for instance, serving aboard the Enterprise NX or running into Voyager), essentially creating multiple stories within the major plot line. These stories could tie into each other through being in the same place through different eras or connecting to some over-arching temporal conspiracy.

Anyway, that's just my idea for a future Star Trek TV or Netflix show.
I like what your saying. You could have one massive plotline throughout an entire season starting with Archer that follows onto Kirk that follows onto Picard, which has repercussions for DS9, and follows through to Voyager, and the outcome is not revealed until the first episode of Season 2.

Thinking of that though that would also make for a great Season (or feature episodes) here on STO. It could start with Archer in The Delphic Expanse and NOT winning against The Xindi, So Kirk's timeline is altered to where the Xindi are still a threat, and so forth
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# 37
08-23-2013, 01:03 AM
If believe they could and probably should make the next Star Trek tv series in the mirror universe.
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# 38
08-23-2013, 09:25 AM
I am just having a hard time seeing this TV series Idea getting the green light.. Not only because of the JJ Abrams Movies, but because I have a hard time seeing Worf as a Central Character commanding his own ship during peace times.

The only way I could see it working is if perhaps he is on the Defiant before the movie where he got it blown up and its more about his duties there during that peroid of time.. But even that doesn't feel right.

And even if it were more about the Klingon Empire, I'm not sure how many seasons such a show could run, because as interesting as the Klingons are, I don't think a show could last very long out side of specific demographics.
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# 39
08-23-2013, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by thecosmic1 View Post
The problem is that the set features: ship interiors, bridge, costumes, weapons, etc are a huge part of any show's initial budget. Those costs are usually displaced over a 13-24 episode season - and hopefully several additional seasons as well. It's hard to recoup those costs on 2 hour TV movies.

For example, the first season of Defiance was budgeted for $40 million, but it's estimated that nearly half the original cost was set design for the city, set interiors, vehicles, weapons, makeup and clothing for all the species, etc. Season 2 of Defiance is coming it at around $25 million - an average of $2 million per episode - because most of the set costs are nonexistent for season 2.

For Trek to work on TV they need to get enough episodes out of the sets per season to justify their costs.
Well, the reimagined BSG started out as a mini-series, and later made it as a full-featured series.
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# 40
08-23-2013, 12:04 PM
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Well, the reimagined BSG started out as a mini-series, and later made it as a full-featured series.
But not with Richard Hatch and Dirk Benedict reprising their roles
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