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# 31
08-23-2013, 02:44 PM
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Since the focus will be on time travel, could someone come up with a scenario that "repairs" the mess that is the last episode of "Enterprise" titled "These are the Voyages.."?
Which part exactly did you mean? There is a lot of chaos created by Enterprise and that last episode given how rushed the series end was.

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# 32
08-23-2013, 04:03 PM
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Which part exactly did you mean? There is a lot of chaos created by Enterprise and that last episode given how rushed the series end was.
Specifically, the untimely demise of Commander Tucker and the lack of grief by the crew. I kept waiting for a "surprise-it-was-all-a-trick" kind of moment. I mean, he even winked at Archer on his way into the hyperbaric chamber. We had a funeral for 15 day Tripp (Sim), but not the real one?

I know the show was being cancelled, but given that the whole episode was a holographic program, would it be okay to create a foundry mission that fleshes out what I think might have really happened, i.e. the holographic program had been tampered with, history is wrong, or more hijinks by Q?

In other words, if there were a season 5, how might you use the foundry to continue the story of the Enterprise?

I'm trying not to type too much specifically about the series, because I don't want to hijack this thread. Apologies to the OP if I did so.
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# 33
08-23-2013, 04:06 PM
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Damn, I've just had a fantastic, mind-numbingly complex time travel idea to follow up to my first mission. Might take longer than the time for this though... plus I just threw a paddy about how it's too early... and I have to put my other stuff on hold... but it's reeeeeally awesome.... hmmm.... what do I do, what do I do!?
One of the core ideas in the time travel mission I did is going back in time multiple times to fight the same guy. Each time you go back further into the past.
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Which part exactly did you mean? There is a lot of chaos created by Enterprise and that last episode given how rushed the series end was.
The biggest issue there is that it wasn't a series finale at all... It wasn't meant to be one. It was scripted as a season finale, at the time they started shooting they didn't know if they would get season 5. Which is too bad.... I was REALLY looking forward to seeing Kzinti.
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# 34
08-23-2013, 04:07 PM
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Specifically, the untimely demise of Commander Tucker and the lack of grief by the crew. I kept waiting for a "surprise-it-was-all-a-trick" kind of moment. I mean, he even winked at Archer on his way into the hyperbaric chamber. We had a funeral for 15 day Tripp (Sim), but not the real one?

I know the show was being cancelled, but given that the whole episode was a holographic program, would it be okay to create a foundry mission that fleshes out what I think might have really happened, i.e. the holographic program had been tampered with, history is wrong, or more hijinks by Q?

In other words, if there were a season 5, how might you use the foundry to continue the story of the Enterprise?

I'm trying not to type too much specifically about the series, because I don't want to hijack this thread. Apologies to the OP if I did so.
Tucker wasn't dead... If you watch closely his "corpse" winks as he's put inside the coffin.
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# 35
08-24-2013, 12:38 AM
I never like the idea of rewriting something that is established in order to bring a specific loved character back. You can explain it in other ways, but dead is dead as far as I'm concerned. When you start killing then bringing people back (whichever method you use) it destroys the narrative gravity that death has (see Rory in Doctor Who, if you see him die you don't weep, you just go "oh lord not again"). Only exception in Spock, and in such a case the "remember" provides leeway. Ditto at the end of series 2 of Sherlock, by appearing at the end it doesn't force it for series 3 (unlike most revival stories in any comic book franchise).

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# 36
08-24-2013, 07:51 AM
Personally, I never really liked stories about time travel...but if we've got time travel, why not raise the dead?

On a related note, I found a novel that deals with Tucker's death. It mentions the wink he gives Archer and goes on to launch into the dealings that led to the war with the Romulans - which is where season 5 might have gone. Novels aren't "official canon," but neither is something I create in this game, so my hopes and dreams have been fulfilled.

Would it possible to list the Foundry maps that are related to the past? (if there are any) I know a lot of them are generic, but are there some that are a bright orange space station, etc?
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# 37
08-24-2013, 12:14 PM
I think the Romulan War novels weren't bad, I wouldn't want those stories to be canon but the idea that the whole 'saving Shrans daughter' and 'Tucker dying' was an historical cover up was cool.

I am going to take the basic premise of 'In a Mirror, Darkly' and the last Batman Movie and take them a step further as a continuation of my Beneath the Raptors Wing Series;
Valdores disgraced Son has got a hold of a Tkon Gateway (Similiar to novel) and is using it to complete his fathers 'destiny'. He has stolen and wiped from history several ships of the same name; 'U.S.S. Bulwalk'.
With the assistance of a Temporal Agent you uncover the truth of the plot by taking another trip to the 22nd Century... Post Romulan War.
What is there plan?
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# 38
08-24-2013, 04:06 PM
I've always waved the Enterprise finale off as just a fictional holodeck program designed to help Riker with his decision.

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# 39
08-25-2013, 02:12 AM
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I've always waved the Enterprise finale off as just a fictional holodeck program designed to help Riker with his decision.

Anyway my mission will be:

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Check out my Foundry missions:
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# 40
08-25-2013, 06:21 AM
Oops I thought I was in that thread >.<
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