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# 1 Help on lv 50 ship choice
09-03-2013, 02:00 PM
Hey you KDF pros out there!
I'm mainly on my FED Engineer but would like to play a bit more with my tac KDF (just got bored after 2 yrs mostly FED and dont wanna play ROM), and i'd like to have some suggestions on a (tanky(?)) T5 C-Store/Fleet ship (T5 shipyard access possible), on my FED i prefer cruisers and tanky vessels in general (Latest toy i got me was the FACR). I want a ship i can use for for PvE and later also PvP (when i got some acceptable equipment)
I have the standard Negh'Var (that actually doesnt perform bad at all) and the Orion Flight Deck Cruiser from the C-Store giveaway - i'd like to try more carriers since i "only" have the Atrox on my fed, i have an eye on the Fleet Vo'Quv and the Kar'Fi, but i am interested in the fleet Battle Cruisers as well, somehow the Bortas also looks cool (at least for PvE) - budget is 2500 C MAX or any number of FSMs (still wanna get Fleet equip(/pets) so i'd prefer a fleet one to save dil/Zen).

I appreciate any input and already want to say thank you

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# 2
09-03-2013, 02:02 PM
I like the bortasqu and its a great ship but very hard to pilot with DHC, takes lots of practice, but it is easier with beams. If you want a battlecruiser that is easier to pilot with DHC try the Fleet Torkaht unless you know you can handle the Bortasqu turn rate.
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# 3
09-03-2013, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
I like the bortasqu and its a great ship but very hard to pilot with DHC, takes lots of practice, but it is easier with beams. If you want a battlecruiser that is easier to pilot with DHC try the Fleet Torkaht unless you know you can handle the Bortasqu turn rate.
Thanks for the input, if t would be a C-Store Bortasqu, what one is the one to "prefer" (your favourite)?

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# 4
09-03-2013, 03:28 PM
Pick up the Mirror Vo'quv off the Exchange to give carriers a try before dropping zen on anything. Its a much cheaper to try before you buy (some people adore carriers, some never get the hang of them), and the Mirror Vo'quv even just own its on is a nicely solid ship.
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# 5
09-03-2013, 03:29 PM
Best way to try the Vo'Quv is the Mirror Universe one. You can grab it on the exchange for fairly cheap. You can give it a try before popping for the Fleet version. I don't have a Kar'Fi, but I hear it's arguably the best ship the KDF has other than the fleet Torkaht.

If you want to try a BoP, I bought the fleet Nough (I can't spell KDF ship names!) and was pleasantly surprised by it. It's a mean little thing! And didn't seem to be as fragile as it's stats lead me to believe.
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# 6
09-04-2013, 02:08 AM
Go for the mirror Voquv if you wanting a carrier if you want something nice from the c-store i can recomend the Garumba siege destroyer, I wanted it from day one when i started playing and finaly got it recently, and its worth every penny, I have loaded it with Elachi weapons and its an amazing gun boat.
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# 7
09-04-2013, 02:32 AM
I'm with the others, the Mirror Vo'Quv (which is bought with nothing but EC) is one of the tankiest ships we have available.

Add to that, you get to launch Birds-of-Prey from your Hanger Bays
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# 8
09-04-2013, 02:42 AM
Fleet Tor'kaht should be right up your alley. It tanks well, hits hard and turns way better than any "cruiser" has any right to.

The Bortasqu' is a bit more of a challenge. If you set it up right and learn how to fly it, it will hit like a runaway train. The problem: it turns like a runaway train. But that's why God gave us Aux2Dampeners.


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# 9
09-04-2013, 04:21 AM
Well, if you're in for the cruisers - cruisers is something that we have!

Let's start with my favourite - the Bortasqu'.
It's the closest thing the KDF has to a Fed. cruiser(not debating wheather it's a good or bad thing). Personally I love it. It's quite the slow turning one, so beams are not out of the question and with 4 or 5 tactical consoles it melts faces anyway. But take it from my experience - if you have the ability to mount DHCs on the Bort, you'll want to sooner or later. I still fly it as a beam boat when I feel like it and if you flied Fed. cruisers it should not be an issue for you.
But when you go into DHC/Turret setup you really witness the raw power of this monster. It vaporizes everything in it's way. The catch - you have to be able to get anything in your way. So as said by others, for this more Klingon oriented setup, you really have to invest in the ship and equipment and also takes a lot of practice and getting used to flying the Bort. However once you master it....well let's say I never stepped out of mine for 1.5 a year now.
I have the 3-pack and I usually use the Command one because I want to slap the 2-piece set for the bonus and it has the sensor analysis that combined with 4 tact. consoles melts faces anyway. When I really feel destructive, I take out the tactical one and just go on rampage lol. If you're going for one of the Bortasqu' ships, I'd recomend the tactical one because of the disruptor autocannon. That thing is epic.

Then we have probably the most popular one - the Tor'kaht.
This one was designed to blow stuff apart no doubt about it. It's very manuverable (for a cruiser) and combined with RCS consoles and good piloting it can bare it's DHC on target and even go into dogfights with some of the escorts. It's strong, it's durable, it packs one hell of a punch and it turns rather nicely. No wonder it's the preferred choice of many KDF palyers.

I would also like to turn your attention to 2 more ships that are not mentioned enough and seem underestimated, but are really good battlecruisers:

The K'maj (Fleet Kamarag), is one very solid cruiser. It's as strong as any KDF cruiser, flies like the Tor'kaht, but also gives you access to sci. ablities to play around with if that's your thing. I really like this ship, I think it's one of the better cruisers in the game.

The fleet K'tinga - well, I guess this one falls into the category of escort/cruiser hybids or light cruisers. It has the best manouverability of all cruisers, but least hull. The console/boff layout is very solid and many experienced KDF battlecruiser pilots don't hide their love for this one.

At the end, the fleet Corsair is worth taking a look at as well. Especially if you want to try and play around with a hangar. But you play this one mostly as a Fed. cruiser - no cloak, slow turning, no DHC. Mostly dependant on beams although it can be tuned to go with single cannon/turret setup.
But that's not what Klingon cruisers are about. You need DHC to feel the rage of a Klingon cruiser and the cloak is nice for the initial decloak alpha.

What would I personally recomend? Well, if I put aside my love for the Bortasqu' - I would say it's a close tie between the Bortasqu' and Tor'kaht(depending on playstyle), with the K'maj(fleet Kamarag) being also considered and seriously looked at.

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# 10
09-04-2013, 05:02 AM
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Go for the mirror Voquv if you wanting a carrier if you want something nice from the c-store i can recomend the Garumba siege destroyer, I wanted it from day one when i started playing and finaly got it recently, and its worth every penny, I have loaded it with Elachi weapons and its an amazing gun boat.
Please tell me you didn't put Elachi Turrets on it.

Elachi weapons penetrate shields but only once every 5s, so you want that to be a DHC not a Turret. Not to mention normal Disruptor Turrets put up the Damage resist debuff.
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