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# 251
09-09-2013, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by standupguy86 View Post
This is what happens when a free 2 play game is built around ignoring subs and focusing on one off purchases like lockbox keys and the rewards that come with it.
you're not really in understanding of the whole F2P business model are you ?

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# 252
09-09-2013, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by standupguy86 View Post
LOL yes. A 'you have to start a new character to experience this content' path. Aside from a handful of missions that allow the other factions to get involved..Dont make this seem like they were doing it for us. LoR was between PWE and Cryptic. There is plenty between Fed and KDF content wise thats been left untouched.
Actually... old KDF players can play most of the new stuff using episode replay. Sure it'll be similar to going back and replaying the Azura rescue, but hey... you can do it. I think the actual starting tutorial mission itself is unavailable.
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# 253
09-09-2013, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by flash525 View Post
I would personally much rather see Federation players flying around in Federation ships (inc Andorian & Vulcan ships), Klingon players flying around in Klingon ships (inc Gorn, Orion & Nausciaan), and Romulans flying around in Romulan (and Reman) ships.

I get why Cryptic have allowed alien ships to feature as playable; it's an easy source of income for them, that and it allows players to fly some of their fan favourites (namely the Galor and Dominion vessels); though the hypocrisy here is that people can't play as their fan favorites (no Cardassian or Jem Hadar characters).

Alien ships should be flyable per missions. Infiltrating the Gamma Quadrant? Give players a Jem Hadar Destroyer. Jumping through time? Give players the Wells Class.
really? if my boyfriend can make yoda, you can't make a Jem'hadar out of an alien? or a cardie?
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# 254
09-09-2013, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by annemarie30 View Post
really? if my boyfriend can make yoda, you can't make a Jem'hadar out of an alien? or a cardie?
I play a Vorta.

Jemhadar are tricky since several of the parts aren't available to players. Cardassians are relatively easy. You just have to find all of the parts, many of which are not named Cardassian.
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# 255
09-10-2013, 06:11 PM
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I agree, that was a good idea and would have been a proper place for them IMHO.
Yes, it would have been much better than to put Starfleet/KDF officers into Galors, D'Koras, or Dominion Dreadnoughts.
With a small story twist they could have included some romulan people and voila, there's the new unaligned faction + Romulans as they are now.

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# 256
09-10-2013, 09:16 PM
I'm tired of non canon and non tri faction ships.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh....php?t=1313421
The Somraw, K'tinga, D'Kyr, D7, Kumari, Xindi carrier, Xindi escort, and the T'Varo are all older than the Constitution Refit and yet they are tier 5. The Constellation is made up primarily of Connie refit parts and it is tier 5, there is no logical reason whatsoever for the no tier 5/6 connie rule.
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# 257
09-11-2013, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by suaveks View Post
Well I know I'm tired of all the lock box/alien ships already. Even certain canon ships do not feel right with me, such as the Scimitar, which I dumped in favor of the Fleet D'deridex despite the fact that the former is more powerful (*cough*OP*cough*).

Same with the Kumari - not only I got bored with its looks, but with the ship itself, and I got myself a Fleet Escort Refit instead. It was when I visited the Ship Tailor with it when I realised I really miss the old times when most ships had several distinctively different skin options, which in turn allowed for some neat customization. All the new ships have basically one skin, at best more than a couple hull materials, but that's basically it. Most you can do with them is to enable the Shield visuals. And even if certain new ships do allow for some customization, like the Vesta, Kumari or Scimitar, they still look basically the same in the end, as the parts are very similar.

I honestly would like to see more proper FED and KDF ships with the level of customization of the older models. This is what I did yesterday with the Fleet Escort Refit that uses only three parts - http://i.imgur.com/N45egfo.jpg
And its just an example. Sadly, with the focus on the alien stuff and constant need for monetization I don't expect any new ships with such level of customization anymore.

And in regard to the topic, this is also the reason I constantly consider using certain Fleet ships instead of all the brand new and "totally not OP" stuff that's released in bundles or lock boxes, even if they have worse stats and such. I may be in the minority, concerning myself with the ship looks, but I really believe the game needs some proper faction ships, instead of all the alien stuff.
Gotta agree there and btw love your sig, made me roll!

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# 258
09-11-2013, 03:08 AM
I'd like to see some new Starfleet ships. Hell, I'd like to see some OLD Starfleet ships too. Galaxy-X Refit and Constellation-Class Retrofit would be nice.

Also, things don't feel really 'Trek' to me, when I go to do my daily fleet alert and my Starbase gets defended by a Scim, a Narada, some Jem'hadar ship and that Andorian thing... Change the base visuals a bit and I might aswell be playing EVE Online.
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# 259
09-13-2013, 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by captainkeatz View Post
I'd like to see some new Starfleet ships. Hell, I'd like to see some OLD Starfleet ships too. Galaxy-X Refit and Constellation-Class Retrofit would be nice.

Also, things don't feel really 'Trek' to me, when I go to do my daily fleet alert and my Starbase gets defended by a Scim, a Narada, some Jem'hadar ship and that Andorian thing... Change the base visuals a bit and I might aswell be playing EVE Online.
I agree with this, and whilst I love flying my JEM Carrier my favourite ship is stil the Gal-X which is long overdue for a fleet version.

I think this thread has shown there are probably more in favour of revamping Faction specific ships or adding Bridge packs or other customisable options to the Z store rather than releasing new and more exotic alien ships all the time.

However Cryptic is a business and to me it seems everything they do is geared around maximising profit. They could I believe make a profit from a Galaxy _X Fleet version for example, but it would not be as high a profit as a new lockbox ship. Same thing goes for Ship/bridge packs v lockboxes.

Whilst making your business profitable is the goal of all companies, maximising profitability at the expense of functionality is not generally a long term survival strategy, Cryptic should in my opinion rethink their priorities for a more sustained profitability over the long term by user engagement with their product.

Thanks to all who took the time and effort to answer my original question.
All the best
Matt

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# 260
09-13-2013, 04:41 AM
Ive tried to remain loyal to the era, using the correct uniforms and ships that belong to starfleet. Because any new ships that would get "captured" would be dismantled and anything found to be an improvement would be incorporated in the newest fed designs. Instead of people just flying around random faction ships. But this sadly is just a game, and its impossible for one man to stop a trend of people spitting on all the "pride in the uniform" and the heart of what is trek (to me) (prime example: the last "Trek" movies, more shooting then depth) I also broke my rule recently by flying a jem'hadar dreadnought carrier on my Klingon Tactical officer. In my mind they boarded and captured it.
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