Captain
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# 61
09-11-2013, 07:02 AM
Have they done anything about keeping people from teaming up with people they have on ignore?
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# 62
09-11-2013, 07:08 AM
The Tholian/Nukara Ground missions at the weekend - there seemed to be a VERY nasty case of clueless-itis going around:

Instance 1: Captain NoBrians beams in, runs out of 'safe area' minus EV suit. Obviously burns then dies/respawns. Repeats this about six times. Ignores requests to activate EV suit (and speculate that he didn't have one). The burning corpse beamed out following his 7th attempt at doing the mission without an EV suit.

Instance 2: Captain Clueless beams in, runs out of safe area minus EV suit. Burns/dies. Respawns. Other players ask him to active EV suit - he replies that he doesn't know how to do that. Explaination on how to activate EV suit given, but apparently not understood as he ran out of the 'safe zone' and burned again. One of the other players in the team lost his temper at this and raged at him, prompting rage replies. Captain Clueless burns again - several team members advised him to read something about missions he intends to play BEFORE playing them. Captain Clueless beams out. Possibly a Troll, but more likely that he was just chronically clueless.

Instance 3: Captain Troll McTrollface, in an instance of Self-destructive, runs around like an idiot, trying to be a hero. Asked to make himself useful and man a console, but requests ignored and instance fails - the idiot has the audacity to comment "nice fail noobs" before beam out. STO Brain-fart of the month award nominee in my opinion.

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# 63
09-11-2013, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by reyan01 View Post
The Tholian/Nukara Ground missions at the weekend - there seemed to be a VERY nasty case of clueless-itis going around:

Instance 1: Captain NoBrians beams in, runs out of 'safe area' minus EV suit. Obviously burns then dies/respawns. Repeats this about six times. Ignores requests to activate EV suit (and speculate that he didn't have one). The burning corpse beamed out following his 7th attempt at doing the mission without an EV suit.

Instance 2: Captain Clueless beams in, runs out of safe area minus EV suit. Burns/dies. Respawns. Other players ask him to active EV suit - he replies that he doesn't know how to do that. Explaination on how to activate EV suit given, but apparently not understood as he ran out of the 'safe zone' and burned again. One of the other players in the team lost his temper at this and raged at him, prompting rage replies. Captain Clueless burns again - several team members advised him to read something about missions he intends to play BEFORE playing them. Captain Clueless beams out. Possibly a Troll, but more likely that he was just chronically clueless.

Instance 3: Captain Troll McTrollface, in an instance of Self-destructive, runs around like an idiot, trying to be a hero. Asked to make himself useful and man a console, but requests ignored and instance fails - the idiot has the audacity to comment "nice fail noobs" before beam out. STO Brain-fart of the month award nominee in my opinion.
I have seen many a player like this in all ESTFs man it is a disease that needs be dealt with simple have Easy Medium Hard Elite STFs, Easy do it 2000 time with secondary successfulness you have done and so ont illy ou hit elite only to solve the issue that I can see of.
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# 64
09-12-2013, 04:49 AM
I'd like to see the game prevent people who don't have an EV suit equipped from joining the Nukara ground missions. Or at least make sure it's in the players inventory.

I'd like to see an unlock mission for things like the Nukara event so it makes sure everyone knows how to use the mandatory EV suit.
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# 65
09-12-2013, 03:00 PM
Better yet just force equip the suit on the player before the mission starts. Have to realize there are a lot of kids that play games like these. They try out random events like this because they got bored with the main gameplay. They beam into a situation like this and seem "clueless" running and burning up over and over, but in reality they are going wtf?!?
Then the uber vet rages over chat how captainclueless is a noob, and bullies the other player who is still trying to figure out what to do causing them to leave the mission and in some cases maybe even the game.
Then you get the other players that run out only to realize they left their suit in their bank. No other option than to quit.
It's more a design problem than bad players. Have a suit force equip should eliminate most of this.
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# 66
09-12-2013, 08:05 PM
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You forgot "1337ist that doesn't know ESTFs". I'm sure we all have encountered them before - usually the ones that have the rainbow boat with a spare skittle tosser saying how their "1337 build" has "pwned pve" and should steamroll the ESTF...

I vaguely recall an ISE that had one of these. We all went left, "1337ie" went right. We wiped the side "in order", he hadn't even popped the cube. When we caught up to him, popped cube in short order, and started wiping the rest in order. Heck, funny thing was that I was in my old Luna for this, so I wasn't exactly a DPS machine (usually my nanite was the last to hit 10%), and I was still last even with his "help"...
I actually broke my "Not gonna PVP rule." with one of those once.


Guy was bragging the entire ESTF how amazing his build was in PVP and that he could solo the run himself if he really wanted to.

He was in an ody. I was in my Defiant Retrofit.


So after he blew up for the tenth time and we'd not only missed the optional but spent easily 35 minutes trying to clear ISE I challenged him to a PVP run.


If his Rainboat was so awesome he should have no problem popping my little Defiant that's specc'd entirely for PVE.


I toasted him 6 times in as many minutes.


It took me longer to find him each time than to turn his hull into burning swiss cheese.


After six consecutive warpcore breaches he never came back.


I tried to PM him and explain that trying to get every proc in the game wasn't going to do anymore than make him miserable in the long run but he'd blocked me.
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# 67
09-12-2013, 11:31 PM
lol @ the above.


Today I was in an infected with this loudmouth knowitall. As per usual I was parsing the instance.

My DPS: 4835 (in an undergeared fleet dhelan with a sci cap)
My HPS: 533 (main tank the whole fight)
His DPS: 874 (in a fleet sovereign with an eng cap)
His HPS: 77 (lol?? and a "healer" too)

Called him on it, he said he is a healer and i need to stay by him... then i said i dont need his heals (and focusing on me is taking away from others that might) and he should focus on his dps... then he started going on and on about the optional and how to do it, and basically throwing a baby fit about how we were doing it. I said dude dont be "that guy" and he told me to F off and left the instance right before the last few spheres spawned.

Completed it with no problems without him.
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# 68
09-13-2013, 03:32 PM
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lol @ the above.


Today I was in an infected with this loudmouth knowitall. As per usual I was parsing the instance.

My DPS: 4835 (in an undergeared fleet dhelan with a sci cap)
My HPS: 533 (main tank the whole fight)
His DPS: 874 (in a fleet sovereign with an eng cap)
His HPS: 77 (lol?? and a "healer" too)

Called him on it, he said he is a healer and i need to stay by him... then i said i dont need his heals (and focusing on me is taking away from others that might) and he should focus on his dps... then he started going on and on about the optional and how to do it, and basically throwing a baby fit about how we were doing it. I said dude dont be "that guy" and he told me to F off and left the instance right before the last few spheres spawned.

Completed it with no problems without him.
lol that is just funny in my eyes as I say there is more than one way to fry a mission more than one way to get the secondary, as long as it is completed you get more if you do, but to just lkeave that is not good for the team or him.
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# 69
09-13-2013, 04:41 PM
Once upon a time, I would have denounced anyone complaining about people not knowing what to do in STFs. However, with the advent of the interminable grind for marks, I've come to understand the frustration.

My thinking is this: If you're going to do an Elite STF, KNOW what you're doing. Practice on the normal one before you try the elite version. If you don't know the strategy, ASK.

I'll also never critisize someone's playstyle. My Cruisers aren't dps monsters, but I get the job done. To me, that's all that matters. When I'm monitoring probes headed for the vortex, NOT ONE ever gets past me. I'm not doing it with tons of dps as someone else might. It doesn't matter though, as long as the job gets done.

The other thing that annoys me is the lack of communication. I'll call out, asking who is going to do what, and no one answers. The result is no one coordinates any efforts. Probes slip through the vortex. All the generators get attacked at once. It's frustrating, because all it would take is a moment to say "I'm doing 'X!'"

But that's in Elites. In normal STFs, I'm more patient, because I consider those to be practice runs for people learning the strategy.
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# 70
09-13-2013, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rylanadionysis View Post
My DPS: 4835 (in an undergeared fleet dhelan with a sci cap)
My HPS: 533 (main tank the whole fight)
His DPS: 874 (in a fleet sovereign with an eng cap)
His HPS: 77 (lol?? and a "healer" too)
What "I" consider a logical team attack pattern:

Escorts: Attacks, while in motion, at a rather close range.
Cruisers: Attacks, while in motion, from a good distance.
Science: Attacks and heals from beside the cruisers.

Tactical: Attacks, while in motion/cover, at a good distance.
Engineers: Attacks, while in motion/cover, at a good distance.
Science: Attacks and heals from behind the engineers and tactical.

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When I play the game "Dragon Age: Origins", the other three members of my team vary in skills. Depending upon what character type I use, I organize my team as follows: (1) Warrior: Tank Damager, (1) Rouge: Scrapper, (1) Mage: Healer/Damager, and (1) Mage: Tank Damager.

While some people try to create a science-tactical officer, I think the greatest error they make is in balancing stats. Cryptic's nerfing has also not helped matters. Science space can be modified for either healing or damaging; however, the setup does not allow you to balance both effectively. Players need to choose one or the other.

Prior to Cryptic nerfing the science kits, the ground officers use to be able to tank.

As I look at that guy's stats, I see how he struggled with his setup. I am not sure if that makes him a horrible player, or if it makes him unaware of his issues.

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