Ensign
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 8
# 81
09-16-2013, 08:57 AM
Being an engineer in an Odyssey cruiser designed for eng support and beamboat broadsiding, I'm not exactly a DPS machine (though my DPS has improved thanks to the help from people on these forums). This is why I've been somewhat hesitant to join eSTFs. Frankly I have no desire to screw up someone's STF run and I don't want to cause trouble. I know you all want to get your optionals and make the most of your time - I don't blame you in the least.

I'll be perfectly happy to fly alongside you, firing all my beams and cutting beam at the enemy while keeping an eye on the escorts' hull integrity - it's what I figure my job is. I have a "give it to them... I'll cover you!" attitude, and I enjoy that role. It really is fun in sector block Borg encounters. I am a guardian, the shield that keeps you flying while you destroy our enemies. I enjoy that.

But I realize that it's likely that this role has little place in an eSTF.

I'm also the kind of player who will be more than happy to follow orders if a player needs me elsewhere or to do something else. You need me to head to the other side? I'm on it, no questions asked. I know a timed battle isn't the place for arguing. I'll trust your judgement because you more than likely have more experience than I do. I've no pride on the subject. Input into fighting style and builds is welcome in my ears - all I ask is some understanding.

All this said, I want to ask all you elite STF jockeys while you're here. Is my attitude right? What should I do to avoid being "that guy" in an eSTF? I do want to join you, but I don't want to show up if I'll be nothing but a burden to the group. I don't want to be one of the people complained about in this thread.
VA Glaciermaw, USS Sol Dragonlord - Odyssey Operations Cruiser - Ordo Frumentarii Fleet
"I am an engineer. If I am with you, I will do everything I can to get your ship and crew home safe."
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# 82
09-16-2013, 09:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lynceusg View Post
Being an engineer in an Odyssey cruiser designed for eng support and beamboat broadsiding, I'm not exactly a DPS machine (though my DPS has improved thanks to the help from people on these forums). This is why I've been somewhat hesitant to join eSTFs. Frankly I have no desire to screw up someone's STF run and I don't want to cause trouble. I know you all want to get your optionals and make the most of your time - I don't blame you in the least.

I'll be perfectly happy to fly alongside you, firing all my beams and cutting beam at the enemy while keeping an eye on the escorts' hull integrity - it's what I figure my job is. I have a "give it to them... I'll cover you!" attitude, and I enjoy that role. It really is fun in sector block Borg encounters. I am a guardian, the shield that keeps you flying while you destroy our enemies. I enjoy that.

But I realize that it's likely that this role has little place in an eSTF.

I'm also the kind of player who will be more than happy to follow orders if a player needs me elsewhere or to do something else. You need me to head to the other side? I'm on it, no questions asked. I know a timed battle isn't the place for arguing. I'll trust your judgement because you more than likely have more experience than I do. I've no pride on the subject. Input into fighting style and builds is welcome in my ears - all I ask is some understanding.

All this said, I want to ask all you elite STF jockeys while you're here. Is my attitude right? What should I do to avoid being "that guy" in an eSTF? I do want to join you, but I don't want to show up if I'll be nothing but a burden to the group. I don't want to be one of the people complained about in this thread.
To be honest, don't worry about joining an eSTF from what I've read you'd be a decent addition to any team because your willing to listen. However getting the optional's and doing in a set order just gets boring now I just have fun otherwise why am I playing the game lol. If you do want to do any STF's just jump in and do it, DPS doesn't matter as much as people think it does but if you want to run one where you won't get moaned/berated just send me a pm and I'll add you since i always run estfs on all of my toons most nights.
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Join Date: Jun 2012
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# 83
09-16-2013, 09:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lynceusg View Post
Being an engineer in an Odyssey cruiser designed for eng support and beamboat broadsiding, I'm not exactly a DPS machine (though my DPS has improved thanks to the help from people on these forums). This is why I've been somewhat hesitant to join eSTFs. Frankly I have no desire to screw up someone's STF run and I don't want to cause trouble. I know you all want to get your optionals and make the most of your time - I don't blame you in the least.

I'll be perfectly happy to fly alongside you, firing all my beams and cutting beam at the enemy while keeping an eye on the escorts' hull integrity - it's what I figure my job is. I have a "give it to them... I'll cover you!" attitude, and I enjoy that role. It really is fun in sector block Borg encounters. I am a guardian, the shield that keeps you flying while you destroy our enemies. I enjoy that.

But I realize that it's likely that this role has little place in an eSTF.

I'm also the kind of player who will be more than happy to follow orders if a player needs me elsewhere or to do something else. You need me to head to the other side? I'm on it, no questions asked. I know a timed battle isn't the place for arguing. I'll trust your judgement because you more than likely have more experience than I do. I've no pride on the subject. Input into fighting style and builds is welcome in my ears - all I ask is some understanding.

All this said, I want to ask all you elite STF jockeys while you're here. Is my attitude right? What should I do to avoid being "that guy" in an eSTF? I do want to join you, but I don't want to show up if I'll be nothing but a burden to the group. I don't want to be one of the people complained about in this thread.
neh your good, i wouldn't worry about dps. In my book as long as you know what your doing and don't get yourself killed in a eSTF your pulling your weight. Think of it this way, if you don't get killed your still doing more then someone thats died 2-3 times within the eSTF.

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Join Date: May 2013
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# 84
09-16-2013, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ijimithy View Post
To be honest, don't worry about joining an eSTF from what I've read you'd be a decent addition to any team because your willing to listen. However getting the optional's and doing in a set order just gets boring now I just have fun otherwise why am I playing the game lol. If you do want to do any STF's just jump in and do it, DPS doesn't matter as much as people think it does but if you want to run one where you won't get moaned/berated just send me a pm and I'll add you since i always run estfs on all of my toons most nights.
This, and really... the 10% rule and other such stuff are really just guidelines and safeguards against a situation in which it becomes possible to fail the optional. Going against these guideline does NOT equal failure or bad playing and they are most definitely not something Moses found on a lesser known third tablet at Mount Sinai.

If you have just one good CC or a better-than-average dps, it's perfectly easy and possible to get the ise optional without getting overrun by spheres if a gen blows early. If you have both, 9/10 it's cakewalk and 10% is practically irrelavent. It doesn't necessarily take longer that way either. ISE+opt is, simply put, too easy to be worth crying about.

I'll go further here... to the l33t players: If following the 10% rule to the absolute letter is essential to your success, either L2P or seek treatment for that OCD of yours.

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Last edited by carasucia83; 09-16-2013 at 09:50 AM.
Commander
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# 85
09-16-2013, 10:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lynceusg View Post
Being an engineer in an Odyssey cruiser designed for eng support and beamboat broadsiding, I'm not exactly a DPS machine (though my DPS has improved thanks to the help from people on these forums). This is why I've been somewhat hesitant to join eSTFs. Frankly I have no desire to screw up someone's STF run and I don't want to cause trouble. I know you all want to get your optionals and make the most of your time - I don't blame you in the least.

I'll be perfectly happy to fly alongside you, firing all my beams and cutting beam at the enemy while keeping an eye on the escorts' hull integrity - it's what I figure my job is. I have a "give it to them... I'll cover you!" attitude, and I enjoy that role. It really is fun in sector block Borg encounters. I am a guardian, the shield that keeps you flying while you destroy our enemies. I enjoy that.

But I realize that it's likely that this role has little place in an eSTF.

I'm also the kind of player who will be more than happy to follow orders if a player needs me elsewhere or to do something else. You need me to head to the other side? I'm on it, no questions asked. I know a timed battle isn't the place for arguing. I'll trust your judgement because you more than likely have more experience than I do. I've no pride on the subject. Input into fighting style and builds is welcome in my ears - all I ask is some understanding.

All this said, I want to ask all you elite STF jockeys while you're here. Is my attitude right? What should I do to avoid being "that guy" in an eSTF? I do want to join you, but I don't want to show up if I'll be nothing but a burden to the group. I don't want to be one of the people complained about in this thread.
You have the right attitude and that is the main requirement; not DPS or CC or whatever.

As long as you have good situational awareness, properly fly the role you have picked and have fun doing so; then no good player will have an issue with you.
Career Officer
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,162
# 86
09-16-2013, 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sarcasmdetector View Post
You have the right attitude and that is the main requirement; not DPS or CC or whatever.

As long as you have good situational awareness, properly fly the role you have picked and have fun doing so; then no good player will have an issue with you.
This is correct. Even among the PvP community.
Ensign
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 8
# 87
09-16-2013, 10:47 AM
Thanks everyone for your input. I suppose I'll jump into an eSTF tonight and see what the Dragonlord can really do

Now that I think about it though, I think I derailed this thread completely Oops...
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# 88
09-16-2013, 11:09 AM
As long as you've done the STFs on normal and understand the objectives already you should do well!

GL and have fun!

PS. Make sure you have ship repair modules and if you die repair your ship before you respawn. You can now get ship injuries.

Last edited by edalgo; 09-16-2013 at 11:13 AM.
Commander
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 481
# 89
09-16-2013, 11:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by edalgo View Post
As long as you've done the STFs on normal and understand the objectives already you should do well!

GL and have fun!

PS. Make sure you have ship repair modules and if you die repair your ship before you respawn. You can now get ship injuries.
This. get a bunch of minor and major repair components and place them in your bank. repair your ship every time you die.
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# 90
09-16-2013, 11:47 AM
Inexperienced Players -

Flying a lower level ship, maybe a standard Sovereign, Luna, or Hermes class, or their mirror equivalent, with a less than desirable build, but at least using the same type of weapons that turns out to have a decent amount of damage. Sometimes using an out of place boff ability, or one that doesn't really work in a given situation. Willing to learn, but not understanding everything yet.

BAD PLAYERS -

flying a tier 3 or 4 ship into an STF, or even a shuttle, with rainbow weapons, sometimes no boff powers at all, using Mk IX or lower gear, bad overall setup, mixing equipment sets, does nothing to aid team members, goes off on their own, attacks wrong targets, draws extra enemies, blames others for failure, yells at everyone who calls them out, all around pain in the ass.

Last edited by enoemg; 09-17-2013 at 01:31 PM.
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