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# 41
09-06-2013, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by eatsmart View Post
Yeah, but how many T'varo builds get 90%+ of their dps from torpedo damage and still parse at the upper end of the DPS scale? Even running a full set of bugged torp consoles from enemy action, I've yet to see one come close. Yes you can make one kill people in PVP, yes you can make one do a respectable level of escort grade dps; but no, they're not camping the OP end of the dps spectrum. 10% projectiles is a different sport to 10% plasma.
Personally, I'm not a fan of DPS discussions. The less damage required to eliminate a target, imho, is better than high DPS numbers. A T'varo won't rake up those high DPS numbers because the target will already be dead.

As for getting the +10% Plasma with the Quads and the BOFF layout, that's going to rule out the top DPS builds anyway.
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# 42
09-06-2013, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by virusdancer View Post
Then the suggestion makes no sense.

Lt Eng, Lt Sci with the En Uni being used as Eng or Sci...would still be 4-5 Eng/Sci slots...no?

What Escort-like ship isn't sporting 4-5 Eng/Sci slots outside of the Kumari?
I Refer to 4-5 from the same field.... as in LT Cmd Engi or Lt Cmd Sci + an ensign... on top of another LT from the other class.

Honestly it ends up being 6 total slots where a player can slot pure heals... the dual class ship every single time is getting really old... I would be happy to see more ships that honestly stick to there class.

If this is the romulan escort then why is it not that.

The issue isn't that escorts sport a couple Ensign and LT heals... its opening up that LT commander Debuff / Cruiser class heal slot.

I am sick of seeing escorts running RSP2... or EPTS 3... or Gravity Well... or Shockwave.... even the odd escort that is dropping Warp Plasma is stupid.

Its a nice cool option... on a handful of ships... but its gotten to the point where every single ship they release is a Lt. Cmd Uni... The Hybrid ship isn't the cool little odd ball ship anymore its the defacto setup for every new ship... and yes having Debuff or Heal class slots on the spike class is bad design flat out. Somehow the romulans get screwed with nothing but Hybrid class layouts.... I for one would like to see a standard ship class options for the romulans... I know there is the hef... but man what an ugly oversized piece.
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# 43
09-06-2013, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
I know there is the hef... but man what an ugly oversized piece.
I think Romulans have been trying to overcompensate for Kirk's Enterprise showing up the T'liss. And then Picard's Enterprises holding their own against larger warbirds.

...Or something, since the Ar'kif is one of the smaller warbirds available and it's still about the size of a Negh'var.

(One has to complement the Romulans on their apparent mastery of RCS technology, however)
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# 44
09-06-2013, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by antoniosalieri View Post
I Refer to 4-5 from the same field.... as in LT Cmd Engi or Lt Cmd Sci + an ensign... on top of another LT from the other class.
My bad...world of difference there. Basically what was an area of the Vet ships being spread to other ships...potentially allowing for the AtBscorts. It does give an advantage (depending on how one looks at it) to the Romulans over the Fed/KDF outside of Lockbox ships.
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# 45
09-07-2013, 12:15 AM
First up, I do like the overall design of the ship. It very much 'feels' the part of a medium-sized Romulan attack ship while also integrating some design styles/accents of 'modern' Cryptic ships(Federation has a clean black and white look, Klingons have a 'carapaced' look with spikey cannonry, Romulans have an almost banded armor plating look - very.. Roman.).

I suppose my primary concern about this ship is that it is not especially tactical for a "Tactical Warbird". Perhaps you have a different vision for the ship, but my interpretation a quad-cannon ship is that it should be closer to a glass-cannon (with a Romulan/Science twist).

After reviewing all of the 'escort' warbirds Romulans current possess, I would like to propose the following bridge arrangements:

Ar'kala Tactical Warbird
X, X, X, X
X, X, X
X
X, X
X

Ar'kif Tactical Warbird Retrofit
X, X, X, X
X, X, X
X
X, X
X, X


I believe this would better compliment the current ship lineup while giving the ship itself a sense of character and purpose among the rest. This layout also presents players with a very offensively minded ship that can potentially trade defense for control, or an extreme amount of offensive options. (I believe only the Kumari can match/surpass the tactical seating potential of the Retrofit)

Console-wise, perhaps it can be better rounded(theoretical fleet as a 4, 3, 3) to contrast the rest of the Romulan lineup that is ironically heavy on tactical consoles but not on bridge seating. This may also help balance the ship by mitigating some of its decloaking bite. It also gives people more room to stuff gimmicky consoles on the ship for unexpected surprises.

Last edited by szerontzur; 09-07-2013 at 12:47 AM.
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# 46
09-07-2013, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by hereticknight085 View Post
What's the base turn rate?
The pictures quoted below show a turn rate of 29.9 with engine power at 37 and no turn consoles equipped. My guess is that the base turn rate is between 14 and 16. The ship seems more like an escort or destroyer than a battlecruiser to me.

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Originally Posted by tom61sto View Post
Singularity Beam (need to be in Annihilation Mode and be attacking a target/have Singularity charge to fire) specs:
http://i.imgur.com/3SKUl3e.jpg -- works with Plasmonic Leech
http://i.imgur.com/0oHKuvZ.jpg -- buffed by [Pla] Embassy Consoles and Tac consoles
Captain
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# 47
09-07-2013, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by chlamidiot View Post
Devs: The text in the description says it puts a stacking debuff on the target but the actual breakdown in the tooltip doesn't say anything about it. Is this just an explanation of why it does increasing damage over time, or will it lower damage resistance against everything? Only against plasma? Hull DR, Shield DR, or both?
My guess is that an earlier version of the ability lowered damage resistance, but they changed it to just do increasing damage over time and forgot to update the text.
Rihannsu
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# 48
09-07-2013, 01:56 AM
First of all i love the overall appearance of the Ship.
It's a nice looking kitbash of a DD Sandwich and a Mogai.

All following statments are my personal opinion.

Two things i don't like about the set is the need to equip the quad cannons for the set bonus.

Any weapon with exclusive [Dmg] modifiers ain't cut it to me.
The same with ENG power drain Warbirds have already low power levels before mods so using gear that actualy drains ENG power is making you pretty quick a sitting duck.

Related to BOff layout i agree with some prior Posters that the Setup now for the T5 is not rly that much a diffrence to the Mogai at all so just for the appearance running this ship?

Imho Warbirds should be more unique and as of there size should take certain aspects into consideration. As of that i would love to see for this ship a BOff layout like the following.


XXXX
XXX

XXX
X
X

This truly would set this Ship apart from FED and KDF Ships of the line and would both pay Tribute to the message it stats to be a TAC ship and it's size as a Warbird.

Just my2cent

P.S. Is there a Fleet Version already planed?

Last edited by splitboy; 09-07-2013 at 02:00 AM.
Survivor of Romulus
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# 49 its epic
09-07-2013, 03:17 AM
can you unlock it on the test sever for me
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# 50
09-07-2013, 03:32 AM
I haven't been fortunate enough to fly it (I think I have to be part of some testing club?) but from what I've seen, it look truly amazing! It takes the best parts from a Mogai and a D'deridex and mashes them into one pretty bird.

I can't wait to fly one when they're released!

Good job devs.
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