Yes, I have been hit by similar issues. A few months ago, we had a series of "Server stability improvements." patches that... didn't, for me. Every time I queued KVE... disconnected. When I got back... STF Leaver's Penalty. Was I hit by a nerd rage proc? Yes. Was this the result of immoral actions on the part of the devs? No.
Originally Posted by iconians
I do enjoy my bread and circuses, Cryptic.
Sure it's out of context, and I don't work for Cryptic... but thanks!
Last edited by breadandcircuses; 09-23-2013 at 08:17 PM.
Reason: Deciding not to elaborate on my own experience with Support, etc.
its not really immoral, its just not really done right. and a bug based on not done right too by the sounds of it.
the leavers penalty seems to be there to compensate for the 1 hour timer you get on completing an stf(pass or fail), rather than any real need for it.
if the system was setup so the rewards matched the effort/time involved, rather than a timer to prevent spaming the mission, it would go some way to solving the issue in a more dynamic way.
If you like the RPG trinity, then you hate MMOs, you hate working, competitive fair PvP, you hate balanced engaging solo content,
and, you hate PvE "adventure zones". because the trinity is incompatible with any of these.
It's a known bug. Yeah so what. It's being worked on. When it will be fixed. Don't know. There's alot more bugs and glitches that have yet to be encountered. No point doing a long winded OP. Personally I lost interest in the OP after paragraph one.
There is no updating a method to loading into an already failed mission with a destroyed IKS Kang.
At no point did I declare otherwise. The action is immoral. The behavior it represents is immoral. Those who argue against it argue for a world in which one is punished by the authority for following their directions.
Without delving into your area of study, let's just focus on this:
No one cares about your rants on morality. No one cares that you have to unjustly wait an hour for the penalty cooldown to expire. It's a bug, one that most of us have dealt with/known about for days now, so you can deal with it, or you can continue complaining on a forum and getting trolled for your ridiculous OPs.
Or maybe you can get off the net and hit the books.
The action is immoral. The behavior it represents is immoral. Those who argue against it argue for a world in which one is punished by the authority for following their directions.
Alternately, and this is just me spitballing here, but maybe the "punishment" is a consequence of completing the mission, whether you were successful or not. The actual punishment is that you don't get rewarded for your trouble. On the other hand, the reward for following the directions is that you are allowed to try a different mission while you wait to get your do-over. You might not like it, but frankly your tone so far suggests that your opinions should hold little to no weight in any reasonable discussion.
This is an online forum for the Star Trek Online game. It is not "Ethics 101". Having an argument about ethics (even one related to a bug in the game) is decidedly off-topic here.
I am closing this thread. If anyone has game-related feedback about the issue, please post your morally-neutral feedback in the appropriate forum.
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