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# 11
10-03-2013, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by telbasta7386 View Post
Have you flown it? Even putting an engineer in your lt com slot, this thing feels squishier than a t'varo, armitage, or even a defiant. The singularity beam unique to the arkif takes 20 seconds to fire off, if you can get it to work properly for the full duration, and that means you've gotta sit still while it fires, making you vulnerable to attack. The hangar bay is limited to scorpions which, while great for damage, cant stand against a stiff breeze and offer no support or utility to the carrier. Yea, it has 16 turn rate, but so does every other escort in the game (if not higher), and it's got less hull than it's federation counterparts. Same goes for the consoles - 4 tactical is nothing to write home about, the armitage has the same as does any other escort.

Compare the bridge officer setup to the armitage, which has a commander tactical, lieutenant tactical, ensign tactical, lieutenant science, and lieutenant engineer - if you're running any career other than tactical, the armitage allows you to run two attack patterns and still keep a full set of energy and projectile special attacks on top of tactical team. With the arkif, you have to give up one of those.

And, above all, my main point here is that the universal slot -is not universal-. You HAVE to put an engineering boff there to make the ship work.
Yes I own both versions the annihilation mode is great for pve

Sounds to me like someone is suffering from the old "bad pilot" syndrome

If your having problems surviving with a lt com engineer two tac teams then you really should learn to pilot not come on complaining about the ships BOFF. Layout that is perfectly fine as is

Elite scorpions are the best DAMAGE dealing pets money can buy I really don't know where your problem is with HAVING 6 HY plasma wandering around the map and he minimal time it takes to spawn them compared to some other pets completely negates your argument involving their survival ability I mean what do you expect the devs to do give then 30k hull and their very own epts3 and rsp

Oh and yes the UNIVERSAL BOFF is UNIVERSAL it can seat a sci to enable you a GRAV well or even moar tac if you fancy it
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# 12
10-03-2013, 01:12 PM
Telbasta, what is your layout, build and ship powers?
Does the boff layout resemble mine at all?
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# 13
10-03-2013, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by telbasta7386 View Post
battle cloak and inertia I'll grant you, but the ships have the same turn rate and the boff seating is more a matter of opinion - and in my experience, my armitage does a hell of a lot better in STFs than my arkif does.

EDIT:
Alright, after double checking, the turn rate is 1 off with the arkif having 16 to the armitage's 15. Isnt a noticable difference when flying the two, though.
An ensign tac slot is almost universally a waste compared to an ensign engineer, especially on a tac-heavy ship. Given that an Aux2Bat build on an Ar'Kif isn't going to happen, the only thing a player is realistically going to slot into an orphaned ensign Tac is another Tac team. Doff application makes that completely unnecessary on the Ar'Kif.

The flexibility to not slot EPtX in higher tier seats gives the Ar'Kif the option of adding additional Aux2X, DEM, RSP, or EWP instead gives it significantly greater options in terms of how it fights than the Armitage. Not to mention the benefits reaped from stacked Republic Boff passives, but that's an entirely different bag of cats.
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# 14
10-03-2013, 01:57 PM
seems to work fine

When was the last time they changed a boff layout on a released ship?

Never that I can recall, otherwise the Galaxy X pilots would have been happy long ago with a boff change I imagine.
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# 15
10-03-2013, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by telbasta7386 View Post
That's like saying the tactical escort retrofit, multi vector advanced escort, heavy escort carrier, and patrol escort all tread on each other's territory.

They're all designed to fill the same role. The arkif is an escort, it's going to "tread on" the ha'feh or the t'varo or the scimitar, they're all designed for damage output. You'll never have anything on the dhelan or mogai, or any dedicated science or engineer ship, with nothing higher than a lieutenant engineer or science boff slot, however.



How is it any different than the Armitage? Focused singularity beam is, more or less, designed to be a counterpart ability to the photon torpedo defense system, and both ships have almost identical stats and hangars.
Actually, the Fed Escorts you mentioned do NOT tread each other's territory / specialties.

The Defiant is the very epitome of an extremely hard hitting, pure TAC Escort. TAC LtCdr & Cmdr, and the Lt ENG or whatever that so many cannot get over. It is TAC, pure TAC, and nothing but TAC, to smash someone's face out of cloak with TAC.

The MVAE/Prometheus is the game's first example of TAC+SCI combo. Characterized by TAC LtCdr, Lt, and a healthy SCI LtCdr.

The HEC/Akira is an example of a "Destroyer" foremost before the hangar comes into play. This is characterized by the Cmdr & LT TAC stations, with a robust LtCdr ENG station, the first Escort in the game that did this.

The Patrol Escort on the other hand is a very TAC heavy ship like the Defiant, but has more balance in its non TAC stations.

The Fed Escorts you made as an example are very rich and diverse, yet for most parts, do not cross each others' specializations. The Defiant & Akira are both Escorts, but both will be built and play very, very differently.
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# 16
10-03-2013, 07:52 PM
I own an Arkif and Jemmy Hec, and when flying the Arkif it reminds me so much of the latter. Granted, Arkif's layout seems to be a little more tac focused, but it is a layout that works just fine (at least I have yet to die in pve)

The annihilation mode can be useful if you:
1) use it to constantly charge your Singularity powers, even when you aren't using the Lance weapon, annihilation mode is constantly active once you click it. It greatly boosts your gameplay if you love using Singularity powers.
2) The singularity beam does get cut out once in a while. The silver lining is that it doesn't force your Singularity charges into a lockdown mode (unlike other singularity abilities) and you can use it even with half pip of singularity charge. I fire it when I need extra forward dps and then combine it with other singularity abilities to finish the enemy off.

And well this is the nicest looking Warbird out there, loving it and waiting for the Fleet version.
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# 17
10-03-2013, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mustafatennick View Post
what are peoples problems with this ship

it has a hangar

It has 16 turn rate

It has a universal boff that if used as an engineer puts the thing in god mode in the easy PVE world

It has 4 tac consoles

It will have a fleet version in due course no doubt

We Romulans have the most powerful ships in the game and this is no exception!

You seriously have no grounds for complaint
There really isn't much reason to use this ship over a Fleet Mogai. I can have Lt Cmdr Eng on the Fleet Mogai and not also be stuck with the stupid ensign eng I don't need if I have Lt Cmdr Eng.

If you have Lt Cmdr eng on an escort, the best thing you can do with it is run damage control doffs to keep epts3 and epte1 up full time, you only need a single eng boff station to do this. If you have an extra eng station you are stuck with rarely used powers like et1 there, so it goes to waste.

The Arkif could have been given a unique boff layout that other ships don't have and not have the false universal boff and wasted ensign eng issue if a few small changes were made.
The ensign eng and Lt sci could be switched around, then if you use the lt Cmdr universal as sci you still would have Lt Eng.
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# 18
10-03-2013, 10:48 PM
What about the Regent? It has a Universal BOFF that needs to be a Sci same with the Tor'kaht.

The thing is yes they are kind of forced into the needs a Specific BOFF for balance, but you could throw something else in there and have a more unique ship.

Complaining about hull strength seems a little silly when your comparing it to ships without the ability to use Singularity power for instant hull and shield heals or battle cloak.

I think this is a good ship, just maybe it's not the ship for you.
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# 19
10-03-2013, 10:54 PM
dahminus has a viable build. I have a viable build. If you change the boff layout you will break OUR builds!

That's 2-v-1 right there.
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# 20
10-04-2013, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by marc8219 View Post
There really isn't much reason to use this ship over a Fleet Mogai. I can have Lt Cmdr Eng on the Fleet Mogai and not also be stuck with the stupid ensign eng I don't need if I have Lt Cmdr Eng.

If you have Lt Cmdr eng on an escort, the best thing you can do with it is run damage control doffs to keep epts3 and epte1 up full time, you only need a single eng boff station to do this. If you have an extra eng station you are stuck with rarely used powers like et1 there, so it goes to waste.

The Arkif could have been given a unique boff layout that other ships don't have and not have the false universal boff and wasted ensign eng issue if a few small changes were made.
The ensign eng and Lt sci could be switched around, then if you use the lt Cmdr universal as sci you still would have Lt Eng.
I wasn't arguing for this ships against the mogai as I think if setup right the mogai is one of he best ships in the game

I was arguing there is nothing wrong with the ark if and if your dieing a lot in it compared to anything else then that is pilot error not BOFF layout problems
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