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Ok so Cloaks got nerfed, most people can probably live with this, but Cloak was OP WITHOUT any points what so ever in Tier 4 skill Stealth.

The problem now is that cloaks are so weak, and any point in starship Stealth is pretty much a waste, at most you can like half a km from it.

I think this can use a little bit of a buff because now its pretty much useless.
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10-03-2013, 02:54 PM
The bonus from Starship Sensors on the other hand scales with Aux.
@50 Aux, 1 Starship Sensors provides 0.6 Stealth Detection Rating or 0.3 Perception.
@130 Aux, 1 Starship Sensors provides 1.56 Stealth Detection Rating or 0.78 Perception.
(Starship Sensors also affects other things.)

The bonus from Starship Stealth is a flat bonus.
@50 Aux, 1 Starship Stealth provides 0.5 Stealth Value.
@130 Aux, 1 Starship Stealth provides 0.5 Stealth Value.

Given a Sci Vessel...

@50 Aux 1 Starship Sensors vs. 1 Starship Stealth
Base Perception 5000
50 Aux +30 = 5030
1 Starship Sensors +0.3 = 5030.3

Base Stealth 4925
50 Aux +50 = 4975
1 Starship Stealth +0.5 = 4975.5

5030.3 - 4975.5 = 54.8 / 50 = 1.096 km

@130 Aux 1 Starship Sensors vs. 1 Starship Stealth
Base Perception 5000
130 Aux +75 = 5075
1 Starship Sensors +0.78 = 5075.78

Base Stealth 4925
50 Aux +50 = 4975
1 Starship Stealth +0.5 = 4975.5

5075.78 - 4975.5 = 100.28 / 50 = 2.0056 km

Given a non-Sci Vessel...

@50 Aux 1 Starship Sensors vs. 1 Starship Stealth
Base Perception 5000
50 Aux +10 = 5010
1 Starship Sensors +0.3 = 5010.3

Base Stealth 4925
50 Aux +50 = 4975
1 Starship Stealth +0.5 = 4975.5

5010.3 - 4975.5 = 34.8 / 50 = 0.696 km

@130 Aux 1 Starship Sensors vs. 1 Starship Stealth
Base Perception 5000
130 Aux +25 = 5025
1 Starship Sensors +0.78 = 5025.78

Base Stealth 4925
50 Aux +50 = 4975
1 Starship Stealth +0.5 = 4975.5

5025.78 - 4975.5 = 50.28 / 50 = 1.0056 km

So looking at Aux.

1 Aux = 1 Stealth Value
1 Aux (Sci) = 1.2 Perception Value
1 Aux (Non-Sci) = 0.4 Perception Value

So looking back at the Sci with 130 Aux, what's 6 Starship Sensors vs. 6 Starship Stealth?

Base Perception 5000
130 Aux +75 = 5075
84 Starship Sensors +65.52 = 5140.52

Base Stealth 4925
50 Aux +50 = 4975
84 Starship Stealth +42 = 5017

5140.52 - 5017 = 123.52 / 50 = 2.4704 km

+83 Sensors/+83 Stealth increased the Perception range by 0.4648 km.

It's far easier to get +Sensors than +Stealth.

Astrophysicist, Tachyon Detection Field, Tachyon Detection Grid, Ionized Gas Sensors, Jem Mk XI/Mk XII Deflector or Romulan Advanced Deflector Mk XII, Sensor Scan, Quantum Singularity Manipulation, Inspirational Leader, etc, etc, etc...

...it's complicated.

IMHO, Cryptic is trying to give the advantage to...

+Sensors spec > +Stealth no-spec
+Sensors spec > +Stealth spec
+Stealth spec > +Sensors no-spec
+Stealth no-spec > +Sensors no-spec

...is that how it looks to others?
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