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# 51
10-10-2013, 02:28 PM
Cool. I will give it a good look over on the selection soon as I log on. And start working on my Bridge Officers to see how I can use it to full potential. Since it won't be bought yet. As I got another ship up first on my buy list. Good candidate for my next purchase. And to use it on Season 8.
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# 52
10-10-2013, 03:09 PM
bought it, set it up, filled it out, and took it into pvp several times, were it got all the nukes and focus fire there was to have, people even stopped shooting at scimitars to target it lol.

it is definitely the second best non escort in game, second only to the scimitar. equipped with lots of turn consoles and escort weapons, its actually outgunning escorts too, a 5th forward weapon is extremely beneficial.

putting aside the debate of weather its ugly or not, the ship model oozes quality, it is extreamly highly detailed and its clear the extra mile was put into it. when you enter red alert, all the windows get a sheet of armor deployed over them, and same for half the buzzard collectors and partially over the warp grills as well.


the torp thing is pretty damn powerful from what ive seen, and of course the command auras are iceing on the cake. the are super easy to swap on the fly, when im redy to alpha i hit the energy drane res, then switch to the manoverability in between. and of course some extra shield res is always great when you come under heavy fire. its 1 more thing to keep track of though, and till i get used to it im libel to forget to activate and swap from time to time.

i had a bit of an issue with the turn rate aura though. just +3 turn is quite low for any sort of boost, but aside from that this aura also granted my ship an additional +100 inertia score wile it was active, giving me 150 inertia! there was 0 sliding when it is active, not sure if that applies to allies too. if this is a bug i say dont remove it, just include it in the description, its rather harmless, it just changes the turning character of the ship a bit


i rate this 10/10, and it would be 11/10 if its design was more soft and curved like the intrepid, galaxy, defiant akira and odyssey. the overly angled look is not an improved style over that
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# 53
10-10-2013, 03:50 PM
I don't suppose we could get a UI for the Fed Cruiser powers that is a copy/paste of the Rommy Singularity Powers UI in the main tray ?

I don't like deploying another UI just for the sake of 3 more buttons .
STO will be out of Beta in another 2-4 years ???
... you know after another 3 story arc remasters, crafting revamp, skills revamp, PVP upgrade ...
*note : the 2-4 year guesstimate came out of comparing Cryptic's Dev speed and that of a snail . Sadly the snail won .
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# 54
10-10-2013, 03:53 PM
I think I got a temp ban for saying to someone in kerrat I hope they didnt spend real money on the avenger and used dil > zen.. after i said that 5 mins later a mail popped up, couldnt read it as it forced disconnected me.

Unless its the players, the ship sucks in kerrat. KDF keeps blowing them up.
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# 55
10-10-2013, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by neppakyo View Post
Unless its the players, the ship sucks in kerrat. KDF keeps blowing them up.
Ker'rat has never been a brilliant proving ground of any sort. It's a gank-fest, and being the new, shiny thing... Yes - the KDF is going to go out of their way to make an 'example' of it.

Killing a ship two or three to one is no challenge, and it hardly reflects poorly on the Avenger.
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# 56
10-10-2013, 04:12 PM
the avenger is one fun hot rod starghip to through its weight into battle and to turn into corners just remember to load eng slots with some knetic resist or res all armor consoles.
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# 57
10-10-2013, 06:00 PM
This is awful. It looks awful and it is an awful direction for new playable ships to be heading. Who wanted this? Why does it exist? Why does it have the firepower of a Scimitar, a ship of Dreadnought class and accepted to be beyond anything else in any other fleet's stable? What, because 5 fore weapon ships exist now every new ship must have that?

Alright, I'll break it down:

Design: Feds have clearly demonstrated that if they are going to make a warship it would be an Escort class vessel of minimal crew. Exceptions being the Galaxy X which was basically a weaponized future dystopia vision of the Galaxy, and the Armitage which is a re-envision of the Akira. Further, the "latest" ships are the Vesta line and the Odyssey class, both of which are more streamlined and sleek compared to older generations like the Excelsior and Galaxy. This thing looks like a converted freighter by comparison.

Stats: The Scimitar has the most firepower of any ship but it is also one of the largest and most unwieldy. That's called balance. The Avenger is more maneuverable but less hull, not entirely an even trade when you consider its size plays into how easy it is for it to approach a target cloaked and remain undetected. It may lose 1v1 to a good Escort captain based on maneuverability, but it is clearly superior to anything larger than it 1v1.

I was hoping the next evolution of Fed tech would be a heavy Beam or side mount Cannon of sorts to make Cruiser broadsides compete with Escort strafing runs. Smaller arc of fire than single Beam Banks but only able to fire to port and starboard. Definitely not some mis-happened Cruiser/Escort hybrid that somehow his the same forward arsenal as a ship 10x its size.
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# 58
10-10-2013, 06:46 PM
its pretty far from the scimitar's firepower. 1 less tac console, no COM tac, so on a scimitar i could run BO3 and APO3, on the avenger if have to run BO1 and APO1 with the tac thats available. plus it doesn't battle cloak, plus its turn rate isn't better when the scimitar has its 2 console bonus that lets it turn much better for at least a whole 15 seconds thanks to a reman boff.

its doing the same thing KDF cruisers have done for a long time, only its doing it much better. to me its like a counterpart to the chimaera, more cruiser and less escort, where the chimaera is more escort and less cruiser. the ship fills a sub niche, and is great fun to use. i dont see what there is to complain about, save for not being fond of its appearance.
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# 59
10-10-2013, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
i had a bit of an issue with the turn rate aura though. just +3 turn is quite low for any sort of boost, but aside from that this aura also granted my ship an additional +100 inertia score wile it was active, giving me 150 inertia! there was 0 sliding when it is active, not sure if that applies to allies too. if this is a bug i say dont remove it, just include it in the description, its rather harmless, it just changes the turning character of the ship a bit
When I was on ESD with people trying out the Auras I saw the boost in inertia. My Kumari went from 60 inerta to 160.
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Captain
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# 60
10-10-2013, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
its doing the same thing KDF cruisers have done for a long time, only its doing it much better. to me its like a counterpart to the chimaera, more cruiser and less escort, where the chimaera is more escort and less cruiser. the ship fills a sub niche, and is great fun to use. i dont see what there is to complain about, save for not being fond of its appearance.
It's performance is really great, as much as i have seen other ppl using it.
The only thing keeping me from spending 25$ is it's appearance.

--- Sorry Crpytic but my money doesn't sit that loose so i would spend it for a ship that is a total design nightmare, even worse than your previous attempts on Starfleet ships IMO

Release some alternative ship parts and i buy it at once ---

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