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# 21
01-29-2010, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Venares View Post
Good to know StormShade.
And as someone who used MES in beta, it was HORRIBLY overpowered
Oh, come on. Two cloaks is never enough. I can't say I'll really miss the cloak-when-you-want-a-better-cloak-than-an-actual-cloak.

Once they get the activate/insta drop bug fixed it should be fairly balanced
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# 22
01-29-2010, 06:33 PM
There's a difference between a skill getting BALANCED, and getting BUTCHERED.

MES is now completely worthless. Oh and where are the patch notes for the past 3 patches?
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# 23
01-29-2010, 06:40 PM
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There's a difference between a skill getting BALANCED, and getting BUTCHERED.

MES is now completely worthless.
You think a level 1 BOff skill that provided unlimited, undetectable, and no-consequence concealment was even close to balanced?

This version has a fairly standard timer (about 20 seconds of use, when it's working), is not harder to detect than a racial cloak (about half the racial now, which should scale up to be about equal to racial with skills and modules), and can still be used to set up a firing run, albeit with a little more skill involved. It's in line with similar level BOff skills now. Balanced, after a fashion
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# 24
01-29-2010, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by An_Heron
The federation QQ is going to be incredible.
All the Klingons whining was not in character for the empire.
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# 25
01-29-2010, 11:07 PM
Without MES escorts are really not a viable ship of choice, they just become free pvp kills. Unless they up escort hulls.... which wont happen
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# 26
01-30-2010, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Faelerian
You think a level 1 BOff skill that provided unlimited, undetectable, and no-consequence concealment was even close to balanced?

This version has a fairly standard timer (about 20 seconds of use, when it's working), is not harder to detect than a racial cloak (about half the racial now, which should scale up to be about equal to racial with skills and modules), and can still be used to set up a firing run, albeit with a little more skill involved. It's in line with similar level BOff skills now. Balanced, after a fashion
[edit]
MES is BUGGED. It currently simply does not work. It's nerfed in the sense that it won't auto 5000 stealth you anymore, just 2500 at level 1 which is still going to be exactly the same. It doesn't just last 20s, it lasts forever, as it should.

As for the quote above me, all races but federation have a free cloak. Currently that's just klingon, but obviously anything you say about MES can easily be associated to regular cloak. [edit]


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# 27
01-30-2010, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Riyx
Without MES escorts are really not a viable ship of choice, they just become free pvp kills. Unless they up escort hulls.... which wont happen
Yeah it's ironic as hell to hear Klingons, who can all cloak, cry about cloaking being overpowered. I mean really, you guys have achieved the highest level of hypocrisy. The vision was a little silly on MES before, but that's about it, otherwise it simply levels the playing field.
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# 28
01-30-2010, 01:28 AM
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# 29
01-30-2010, 01:34 AM
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Yeah it's ironic as hell to hear Klingons, who can all cloak, cry about cloaking being overpowered. I mean really, you guys have achieved the highest level of hypocrisy. The vision was a little silly on MES before, but that's about it, otherwise it simply levels the playing field.
0_o.
Level the playing field?

I cant believe you have the raw brain power to suggest that the field isn't "level" because of cloak.....

Without getting into actual game imbalances, we all know the klingons have cloaks. its their "racial benefit".

Unless you want red vs blue. Yes. give the federation a cloaking device.

Where are my fancy quest items to blast feds out of the stars?

Where are my fancy ways to level up so we can compete merit wise, skill point wise and energy wise...

Yes. Let us indeed level the playing field.

Dont like fighting against cloak? Play klingon or a super science ship.

If I wanted to play a jabba the hutt turning sloth like cruiser with almost 360 firing arc...I'd play fed. I'd huddle up and drink some coffee while autotarget played the game for me.
I choose to play the other side because it offers a unique play style.

cookie cutter = bad.
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# 30
01-30-2010, 01:40 AM
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Yeah it's ironic as hell to hear Klingons, who can all cloak, cry about cloaking being overpowered. I mean really, you guys have achieved the highest level of hypocrisy. The vision was a little silly on MES before, but that's about it, otherwise it simply levels the playing field.
It WAS over powered when you could get something better than cloak at ensign level, considering all of our ships have less shields and hull than Fed. You guys always seem to forget what Klingons sacrifice for our cloaks, yet you expect no sacrifice.
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