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# 1 Looking for Advice on STFs
10-23-2013, 04:43 AM
ok, So largely from powerleveling, I managed to get my character to Level 45 and unlocked the STFs. I figured since I never really seriously leveled a character before and had not run any endgame content i would start now.

Except, I am not really geared or anything for STFs and I don't really know what to do. Currently I can only run Normal and not Elite, which I figured was ok, since I am less likely to annoy my team with my inexperience.

So what STFs are best to learn what to do? Should I do Space or Ground missions? What kind of gear/abilities should I have? Really anything to help me would be appreciated.
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# 2
10-23-2013, 05:13 AM
Really, any of the STF's you can screw up from inexperience. With that being said, if you either know a batch of decently experience players, or get lucky in the public queues, and get a good team, IF you keep your eyes open, and look for messages in chat on what to do, you can do well, even in your first STF. Best one to try first, honestly, is Khitomer Space. And the normals are almost useless as a "training guide: for the elites, the spawns are different.

Best piece of advice I can give you, keep your eyes open, and watch what others are doing, and follow their lead. Also, Keep your chat window open, and don't blow off messages from the others. If someone tells you to NOT do something, they're likely telling it to you for a good reason. Also, it never hurts to open up in the beginning, with an "I'm new, any pointers?" Sometimes you'll get jackrears that won't help you at all, but if you openly ask, and actually listen to the advice, quite a few players will take the time, even if it's quick messages, to advise you. Like on Cure Space, someone might tell you "Nail the left cube's probes, working your way from the bottom ones to the top. DO NOT blow the the cube itself til we're ready though". Or other stuff. Follow the advice, unless it seems like it's screwy.

Oh, and as far as ship & gear, don't worry overly much about that. Only thing I advise, don't waste your time with common (white) gear. Only use uncommon and above. But you'll still be ok, even with Mk X gear to start off with, and either buy, or use drops, or (if you have a fleet), poke around the bank, to see what goodies you can improve your ship with.And if you have a good fleet, don't hesitate to ask them, "Hey, I need a couple phaser dual cannons" , for example, someone in your fleet may have one or two to spare for you. (And on the fleet thing, after you've gotten your ship or two built up, it's kind of nice, if you get a few great drops, to kick them back into the fleet bank, for another to be able to have)
Well, if you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask, and good luck with defending the sector!

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# 3
10-23-2013, 07:57 AM
Start on the normals. Those will give you a basic idea on how the fights work. You also don't really need any exceptional gear for them, you can clear STFs (even ESTFs) in cheap blue gear off the exchange. It can be done in whites, but the guys who do are usually old pros who know the fights inside and out. For you though, exchange blues is fine.

I'd also recommend starting off with Infected Space. It's literally impossible to fail it. So even if you do screw up and blow the optional, you will still complete the mission at the end. Khitomer Accord and Cure can be failed though, so just keep that in mind.

You can also hit up Youtube for STF videos. It's usually people showing off their newest ship or build, but you can watch those to get a feel for how the fight works instead.

That's what I did when I first started getting into them. Watched videos of the fights, then started off doing normals for a while. Once I got them down, I moved on to the elites as I geared up.

Oh and just ignore people who yell at you and stuff. They usually don't know what they're doing. A while back some dude started yelling at me in /tells only because I was a sci in a sci ship (tac Vesta). Rather than get mad, I just started laughing at him. He pitched a fit and put me on ignore. I then went on to tank and pretty much solo the tac cube at the end. Luckily there doesn't seem to be much of that anymore these days. But if you get some, brush 'em off.

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# 4
10-23-2013, 09:04 AM
I disagree, the conduit is a better starting tool. Start on Normal, and use the marks you earn to earn reps. Get the Assimilated console from Omega and the Nukara console from Nukara, and slowly update your weapons consoles to MK XII. That shoudl build up some marks for the rep systems and get you on a better footing.
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# 5
10-23-2013, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by comtedeloach2 View Post
I disagree, the conduit is a better starting tool. Start on Normal, and use the marks you earn to earn reps. Get the Assimilated console from Omega and the Nukara console from Nukara, and slowly update your weapons consoles to MK XII. That shoudl build up some marks for the rep systems and get you on a better footing.
Infected Space IS the conduit lol. The mission is called Infected: The Conduit.

And the Nukara console is only worth it if he uses beams. Otherwise the accuracy bonus is wasted.

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# 6
10-23-2013, 09:17 AM
Usually for end game you grab "dungeon/rep" gear before attempting end game. Following this I went into my first regular stf with aegis sey and full purps....was overkill. my alts went into estfs as soon as they hit 50 and I still feel over geared.

Point being, just jump in. People learn quicker from experience, and you will be able to start on your rep grinding sooner.

You can always join a fleet. A fleet will show you the ropes and answer any questions you may have....atleast the decent ones will.
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# 7
10-23-2013, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by earlnyghthawk View Post
Really, any of the STF's you can screw up from inexperience. With that being said, if you either know a batch of decently experience players, or get lucky in the public queues, and get a good team, IF you keep your eyes open, and look for messages in chat on what to do, you can do well, even in your first STF. Best one to try first, honestly, is Khitomer Space. And the normals are almost useless as a "training guide: for the elites, the spawns are different.

Best piece of advice I can give you, keep your eyes open, and watch what others are doing, and follow their lead. Also, Keep your chat window open, and don't blow off messages from the others. If someone tells you to NOT do something, they're likely telling it to you for a good reason. Also, it never hurts to open up in the beginning, with an "I'm new, any pointers?" Sometimes you'll get jackrears that won't help you at all, but if you openly ask, and actually listen to the advice, quite a few players will take the time, even if it's quick messages, to advise you. Like on Cure Space, someone might tell you "Nail the left cube's probes, working your way from the bottom ones to the top. DO NOT blow the the cube itself til we're ready though". Or other stuff. Follow the advice, unless it seems like it's screwy.

Oh, and as far as ship & gear, don't worry overly much about that. Only thing I advise, don't waste your time with common (white) gear. Only use uncommon and above. But you'll still be ok, even with Mk X gear to start off with, and either buy, or use drops, or (if you have a fleet), poke around the bank, to see what goodies you can improve your ship with.And if you have a good fleet, don't hesitate to ask them, "Hey, I need a couple phaser dual cannons" , for example, someone in your fleet may have one or two to spare for you. (And on the fleet thing, after you've gotten your ship or two built up, it's kind of nice, if you get a few great drops, to kick them back into the fleet bank, for another to be able to have)
Well, if you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask, and good luck with defending the sector!
Quote:
Originally Posted by lan451 View Post
Infected Space IS the conduit lol. The mission is called Infected: The Conduit.

And the Nukara console is only worth it if he uses beams. Otherwise the accuracy bonus is wasted.
Oh, Ok, i have always just called it "the conduit"...
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# 8
10-23-2013, 09:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lan451 View Post
Infected Space IS the conduit lol. The mission is called Infected: The Conduit.

And the Nukara console is only worth it if he uses beams. Otherwise the accuracy bonus is wasted.
Since I am currently in a Sovereign, I am using beams (well beams and torps, but beams probably primarily as it is hard to line up the torps). That said however, I am not yet Level 50 So Nukara or any other rep and this point is moot until I get a few levels.
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# 9
10-23-2013, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by comtedeloach2 View Post
Oh, Ok, i have always just called it "the conduit"...
Yeah, it's a hold over name from earlier on. Back in the day when they were first added to the queue they were just called Infected: Space, Khitomer Accord: Space, and Cure: Space. That's why you see some of us old timers calling them ISE, KASE, and CSE. They were changed at some point to be called "The Conduit" etc. We just got used to calling them by their old names and it just kind of stuck lol.

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Originally Posted by voyagerfan9751 View Post
Since I am currently in a Sovereign, I am using beams (well beams and torps, but beams probably primarily as it is hard to line up the torps). That said however, I am not yet Level 50 So Nukara or any other rep and this point is moot until I get a few levels.
Yeah don't worry about it right now. Since you do use beams, it really is a good console and you're going to want to get it at some point. But for now since you're only doing normals, it's not something you terribly need. Like I said before, just some nice blues that you can pick up on the cheap is fine to start off with.

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# 10
10-23-2013, 10:20 AM
So I was looking up some of the STFs on the wiki. Is it worth me trying the Cure out, or should I stick to just Infected until I get the hang of STFs?
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