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...and sold it as a standalone game?

What if it was B2P, along the lines of some of the old FPS/RTS/TPS titles or things like GW/etc...where you bought the client, and that got you some initial stuff. Not talking a huge investment here, not talking current box prices or the like - just some initial buy in cost.

Then from there, what if they sold things along the lines of what you see in games like MWO/WoT/etc...and things like that, eh?

Perhaps they were to sell various map packs or gametype packs - various collections.

Various other things, along those lines...but where the focus was mainly on trying to balance the PvP and so forth?

Something that had some casual skirmish pew pew action, had different Arenas with a leaderboard, had Campaign play that was tracked over a period of time via different scenario play, and well...various bells and whistles.

Would it be something that could stand on its own...create a profit...and be a source of revenue for Cryptic/PWE?

Or would it fall flat on its face and be the kind of colossal mess that cost jobs?
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# 2
02-02-2015, 11:42 PM
HEck NO.

I would never ever ever ever ever pay them more money for something that should exist in the game.

I will agree with you though that it is time to put up or shut up.

They have revamped all the systems needed to convert STO PvP to a GW2 Style PvP experience. As I see it for me to really honestly care about STO anymore they can either implement a system like that in STO right now minus ALL P2W that has made there PvP a joke after such a promising start 5 years ago. OR option 2 delete it... remove the ques and admit that they don't see a revenue stream there and don't care.

At this point PvP is the only major system to not be overhauled and it is glaringly the worst part of the game.
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# 3
02-02-2015, 11:52 PM
If they had started off that way, they would have a shot.

Now, however, I doubt it. They've built up way too much bad feeling for many here to trust them with even more money. It would just seem like a moneygrab for something they should have done from the beginning.
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# 4
02-03-2015, 01:30 AM
hmm.... very interesting but high-hypothetical thought. i'd buy it! better than most of the alternatives imo, as i WANT a sto-pvp environment one could work with.

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02-03-2015, 03:34 AM
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# 6
02-03-2015, 04:05 AM
making all gear leveless would go a LOOOOONG way toward making pvp nearly playable. at level 60, you got a fair amount more hitpoints, so you can soak broken crap a lot easier, almost to the point that its not broken. and really, most of its only broken when you run mk14 versions of stuff.

with no mk14, there is no neutronic 1 shot, CRF vape, SS vape, there's a decent chance you can survive some ionic, particle gens are a bit less powerful, but not nerfed the same magnitude as actual weapons, but some.

i'd totally log on to play pvp again if they did that, id consider spending money too, buy new ships, maybe even grind some specilization from time to time.

but pvpers can skip the up upgrade monopolization thats currently paying the bills at cryptic! not entirely, with leveless gear, rarity will mater quite a bit. he who has gold, will have quite an advantage over he with just purple.
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# 7
02-03-2015, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post

with no mk14, there is no neutronic 1 shot, CRF vape, SS vape,
I beg to differ:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NtDznbRz5w

Not only its MKXII i used in this video but i also got 2 or 3 people not even in my field of vision with a spread. no torp consoles.

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# 8
02-03-2015, 04:20 AM
I wouldn't buy it, or anything Cryptic ever made again, my days of spending money on this company are over, period. If this idea was proposed a year ago I may have bought into it, but not now and not ever, I've seen how good other games can be at a fraction of the money I was spending on STO, I would be a fool to go back to that and a fool and his money are soon parted.

Too late for Cryptic PvP for me.

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# 9
02-03-2015, 04:27 AM
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I beg to differ:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NtDznbRz5w

Not only its MKXII i used in this video but i also got 2 or 3 people not even in my field of vision with a spread. no torp consoles.
on a romulan character with an enhanced battlecloak. thats a bit of an edge case. just mentined in another thread, but to further fix on the neutronic i'd remove the damage buff per torp applied by spread, so it fires how ever many torps, but all at just thier base damage.
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# 10
02-03-2015, 05:07 AM
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on a romulan character with an enhanced battlecloak. thats a bit of an edge case. just mentined in another thread, but to further fix on the neutronic i'd remove the damage buff per torp applied by spread, so it fires how ever many torps, but all at just thier base damage.
you dont want to see what my scimi can do with neutronics.
its not even funny.
that sht is totaly overpowered for pvp.

but that's not even the worst. You know that you can fire iso cannon from regular battlecloak?
360 degree firing arc, 100% acc, 100% crth with trait, boosted by partigens(let's say 500), tac skills, everything. recharge time under 60 sec.
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