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# 181
02-04-2010, 02:44 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out why they gave us 2 weapon slots if we're not supposed to use them. Can you answer that for us ajac. It seems to me that if I have 2 places to hold weapons I should be able to use 2 weapons. If there is only 1 special for each weapon why would I EVER have to switch to the weapon in the other slot cryptic gave me? Why don't we all just have 1 slot then?
to switch between them if one isnt working to well.. but ask the devs their hte ones that nerfed it lol you werent ment to be able to to do 2 massive attacks one right after another.. ur ment to switch weapons to choose one with a diffrent energy type or attack type or special type.
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# 182
02-04-2010, 02:45 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out why they gave us 2 weapon slots if we're not supposed to use them. Can you answer that for us ajac. It seems to me that if I have 2 places to hold weapons I should be able to use 2 weapons. If there is only 1 special for each weapon why would I EVER have to switch to the weapon in the other slot cryptic gave me? Why don't we all just have 1 slot then?
Depending on enemy placement and types, you might want to have a single target heavy hit like a sniper shot, as opposed to a less damaging cone attack.
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# 183
02-04-2010, 03:10 PM
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to switch between them if one isnt working to well.. but ask the devs their hte ones that nerfed it lol you werent ment to be able to to do 2 massive attacks one right after another.. ur ment to switch weapons to choose one with a diffrent energy type or attack type or special type.
But that is an exploit according to your previous posts: "You shouldn't be able to use 2 specials in a row". I don't think anyone here told you to use two rifles and swap for duplicate specials that was something you brought to the thread. From what I saw people were telling you to Expose with one weapon special then Exploit with the other, which you claimed as an exploit.

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Depending on enemy placement and types, you might want to have a single target heavy hit like a sniper shot, as opposed to a less damaging cone attack.
But that is an exploit according to the OP.
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# 184
02-04-2010, 03:23 PM
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But that is an exploit according to your previous posts: "You shouldn't be able to use 2 specials in a row". I don't think anyone here told you to use two rifles and swap for duplicate specials that was something you brought to the thread. From what I saw people were telling you to Expose with one weapon special then Exploit with the other, which you claimed as an exploit.



But that is an exploit according to the OP.
yes its an exploit and obvious the devs agree if they nerfered it.. I didnt say use 2 specail attacks I said switching weapons becasue of type I mean you do know thiers more then one type right? Disruptor phasers polarn plasma ect ect some enemies have diffrent defense against different weapons thats why you switch an enemy is taking your phaser fire like nothing so you switched to disruptor wow doing more damage now.
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# 185
02-04-2010, 03:57 PM
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I didnt say use 2 specail attacks I said switching weapons becasue of type
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no switching weapon so u dont have a cool down is aka you use your special attack and then switch to a different weapon use its special attack which of course is ready. sorry I feel that an exploit of the game mechanics defeats the purpose of cool downs. You shouldnt be able to use your special switch weapon and use its special dont like it sorry.
Maybe it's just me but you've since changed you stance for "2 specials" to "2 massive damage attacks". The former is what you originally called an exploit on page 3 of this thread. You're right they're fixing the double Exploit usage. But no one here (except YOU) has brought that up. Most in THIS thread were trying to tell you to use an Expose then an Exploit and you suddenly changed your stance from 'specials' to 'massive damage'. So which is the exploit?
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# 186
02-04-2010, 04:02 PM
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And I quote:



Maybe it's just me but you've since changed you stance for "2 specials" to "2 massive damage attacks". The former is what you originally called an exploit on page 3 of this thread. You're right they're fixing the double Exploit usage. But no one here (except YOU) has brought that up. Most in THIS thread were trying to tell you to use an Expose then an Exploit and you suddenly changed your stance from 'specials' to 'massive damage'. So which is the exploit?
huh'? you make no sense.. switching between 2 weapons to use both their specials to do massive damage did you even read the threads? guess not but dunno why anyone aruging about it the devs agreed and its gone so no point in beating a dead horse go whine to the devs if you got an issue with it.
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# 187
02-04-2010, 04:21 PM
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huh'? you make no sense.. switching between 2 weapons to use both their specials to do massive damage did you even read the threads? guess not but dunno why anyone aruging about it the devs agreed and its gone so no point in beating a dead horse go whine to the devs if you got an issue with it.
Yes I did read the thread. From the start where you couldn't understand the Expose/Exploit system to the point where you realized it and started calling it an exploit in the game mechanics. As I showed you doing. In the first post I quoted you said AND I QUOTE AGAIN IN CASE YOU'VE FORGOTTEN:

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You shouldnt be able to use your special switch weapon and use its special dont like it sorry.
Where in THAT sentence did you say ANYTHING about "Massive Damage"? All I see is "special" and absolutely NO backup as to WHAT special it is.

The dev's agreed to fix the Exploit/Exploit system, NOT THE 2 SPECIALS SYSTEM. Did you even read the thread? Cause I've even listed the page numbers of your own quotes that you seem to have forgotten.
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# 188
02-04-2010, 04:26 PM
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Yes I did read the thread. From the start where you couldn't understand the Expose/Exploit system to the point where you realized it and started calling it an exploit in the game mechanics. As I showed you doing. In the first post I quoted you said AND I QUOTE AGAIN IN CASE YOU'VE FORGOTTEN:



Where in THAT sentence did you say ANYTHING about "Massive Damage"? All I see is "special" and absolutely NO backup as to WHAT special it is.

The dev's agreed to fix the Exploit/Exploit system, NOT THE 2 SPECIALS SYSTEM. Did you even read the thread? Cause I've even listed the page numbers of your own quotes that you seem to have forgotten.
yup they fixed it by properly putting the cool down between the 2 did you read the patch notes? then again you seem to busy yelling at someone over the computer.. ah well must suck not having a llife ah well dont bother replying your getting boring.
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# 189
02-04-2010, 04:43 PM
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yup they fixed it by properly putting the cool down between the 2 did you read the patch notes? then again you seem to busy yelling at someone over the computer.. ah well must suck not having a llife ah well dont bother replying your getting boring.
I'm not yelling at anyone I'm trying to bring attention to the parts of my posts which you seem intent on ignoring for the benefit of your position. No they did not nerf the 2 specials. They nerfed using 2 Exploits.

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It's unintended that players would be able to fire two sniper shots back to back. We're considering a couple different fixes.
That is using two Exploit attacks. Not 1 Expose then 1 Exploit. 1 is massive damage (which is what you changed your argument to after you posted the link) and the other is using specials (which was your original "exploit").

special attack <> massive damage
special attack != massive damage

Your original "exploit" was:
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You shouldnt be able to use your special switch weapon and use its special dont like it sorry.
That is NOT what they are "considering fixes" for. Or do you still not understand the combat system?
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# 190
02-05-2010, 06:33 AM
Zexks Just stop he won't listen to reason been down this route before, everyone on the game understands firing two sniper shots in a row was wrong but none of us ever said we did that.

I always used Expose fire then Exploit fire like for example Stun beam + Wide Beam.

He obviously doesn't understand and is confused enough to think the developer thread where they mentioned it refers to what he's saying. He's wrong we both know that, hell I think everyone knows.

I just find it funny we are still arguing with a guy that didn't understand the Expose Exploit system and he claimed to be in the CB lol
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