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# 71
11-04-2013, 09:01 PM
These changes to Dyson Rep system look absolutely awful.

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# 72
11-04-2013, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by aegon1ice View Post
Oh, btw. I think you can stop using REDACTED now and just call it by the name "Omega Particle"...
having not done any tribble testing for 2 weeks, you actually just ruined that for me
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# 73
11-04-2013, 09:37 PM
Ok, I haven't been on Tribble in a while since my patience for watching anything update short of Holodeck is nonexistent. But I've kept up on blogs and youtube, and...good God cryptic. What in the REDACTED are you thinking? HYPER-INJECTION Warp Core + COMBAT Impulse Engines=WTF? And a mk XII REGENERATIVE Shield Array with less regen and cap than the mk XI Borg shields? Sure I might just get this set for looks on some ship just because I can, and people are making the prices for this stuff out to be much more ridiculous than even close to what they really are, but, for Kahless' sake. This season is gonna be a train wreck. I'll stick to stfing and doffing around until 'Escorts Online: Season 9: A New Rep' is released this upcoming May. Live long and WAKE THE REDACTED UP, CRYPTIC.

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# 74
11-04-2013, 09:41 PM
the one question ive got is, who makes these insane asinine decisions?
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# 75
11-04-2013, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by coralec View Post
I hope you all realize that the EC price inflation is just an evil plot to inflate the energy credit prices of lock box items on the exchange beyond the EC cap for non-freemium players...
I think it's more aimed at correcting the gross imbalance between ground and space gameplay in terms of profit. Right now, nobody plays ground, precisely because the vendortrash value of ground items is negligible. This change is apparently an attempt to equalize this imbalance and shift people to playing more Ground content.
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# 76
11-04-2013, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by toshiro157 View Post
So based on the wiki, assuming I am reading it correctly, the other reps need 1526 marks to get from t0 to t5.

For the dyson one we need (assuming 36 days to complete-2800 xp per day) 36*40=1440 marks (based on the 2500 project and 2 150 xp projects)

Since you get 50 for completing the daily mission (unless that has changed) the actual tiers are a bit less grindy assuming daily play and ability to log in twice that day.

On the other hand if you try to make it go faster the mark cost increases the minimum amount of time needed to complete will be 15.2 days and will require 7273 marks (granted this assumes one can play all 24 hours.

Min time to complete: 15.2 days and 7273 marks
Max time to complete: 40 days and 0 marks (only use the 2500 xp project)
Difference from other tiers: uses 86 less marks for the same amount of time

My conclusion is that getting through the tiers is still slightly less grindy than previous tiers, however the item cost still seems over priced to me.
I actually posted most of this information in post 15 of this thread, although it ended up as thicker blocks of text. Don't forget the 25 DM you will need for the level up projects.

I'm also glad that someone corrected the ones saying it is 2k for the 20h one when its been 2500xp for the 20h one for over a week.

The EC cost increase should not be really noticable with the increase in the value of the ground gear and the ability to sell the free items from the project boxs. However this is going to result in a huge increase in EC across the board as the ground gear that was worthless suddenly goes to 4-5x in value. i need to remember to log in just after the servers go live and empty the exchange of all those items posted at 2k, they are going to sell for double that much of the time. I'll clear off the exchange, number them on a vendor and make nothing but profit..

http://sto.gamepedia.com/Reputation_System

has charts at the bottom with all of the costs in EC and Marks for Omega and Romulan Reputation systems. This also gives you the data you need to do the calculations for the new system so you can compare the total costs.

Doubling the costs of the gear went from "Sure I'll work on that" to "Um, no. Not worth the time". I'll probably get the photon torp and maybe the console but not going to both with any of the rest of it.

Its really sad to. I was looking forward to the new stuff as it was fun and progress was at a reasonable rate and cost. The mark cost increase with the current amounts granted by the missions makes it a non-starter.
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# 77
11-04-2013, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by trek21 View Post
I really don't think they will, because it's fairly in-line with the importance of the Omega Directive: no one has to know about the existence of Omega particles, until such time as they're forced to deal with them.

Since Season 8 hasn't officially happened yet and all players haven't physically come into contact with omega particles, with our own ships, we're not supposed to know about them either

Obviously we know, but our characters don't by all rights
An omega particle is in the room where Captain Shon gets captured in the featured episode on Holodeck. When you get in the room where Shon is taken, look up above the platform and there one is.
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# 78
11-04-2013, 10:03 PM
I'm passing along constructive feedback from this thread. Thanks in advance for keeping it constructive.

Re: Math -- do make sure to check your figures It's 2500 rep XP gained from the large, 1 commendation project.

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Originally Posted by ladymyajha View Post
You need to do 2 hours of straight game play, and you still need to pay 40 marks to get 300 rep exp.
Depends. If you log in and don't have a small project in progress, or if it's at least complete, and you have marks stockpiled, you could start a project at login and then another 1 hour later. If you play for 2 hours, you could potentially start three 150 rep XP projects.

Cheers,

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# 79
11-04-2013, 10:08 PM
Hey BranFlakes, contrary to the patch notes, the "Become Reviewer" function is not fixed.
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# 80
11-04-2013, 10:10 PM
The feth is this? Those dyson changes look like you've got a bit of conflicting goals. On the one hand, we need to make it less of a grind. On the other, OH NO, WE MADE IT LESS OF A GRIND, ALL HANDS REVERSE COURSE! AOOGA AOOGA!
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