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# 1 The best ships for PvP...
07-09-2013, 04:24 PM
Totally subjective, though please feel to elaborate on your reasons.

List what you think are the top 3 best ships for pvp in each of these categories. These can include any type of Ship, from tier 4 all the way down to the bug.

Federation
Best effective dps
Best healer
Best harasser

Romulan
Best effective dps
Best healer
Best harasser


KDF
Best effective dps
Best healer
Best harasser
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# 2
07-09-2013, 07:58 PM
non lock box

feds
andorian
odyssey
vesta

rom
scimitar/Fleet Dhelan/Fleet Ha'feh
fleet hapax
fleet tvaro

kdf
kdf vet ship/fleet somraw
fleet corsair
fleet brel/carrier

andorian simply has the most forward guns, theres no question its the best dps'er. best dueling escort? no, the defiant, fleet MVAM, bug, even fleet saber have a more then good chance of beating one. its down on hitpoints vs those fleet escorts and has a pretty average turn rate

non lockbox the ody is the best healer the feds have. the universal LTC for sci, and the ENS for eng is the ideal healer setup, so you can run 2 TSS and 2 HE

vesta can do just about anything and everything, only the wells is a beter sci harasser. its got a commander sci, and it can combine that with every other station power, with its universal LTC



situationaly, the scimitar has the highest damage dealing potentual of basicly anything. its much harder to use it though then an actual escort. the Fleet Dhelan has beastly damage dealing capability too, and is a full bloded escort with dangerious sci capability. the Fleet Ha'feh is like the dhlean only HUGE and has a more typical escort layout

the fleet ha'apax is like an ody that can separate but doesn't have a universal ENS, which is very unfortunate, and stupid. not sure what they are saving that station setup for, an even BIGGER flagship? stupid and pointless, this ship can only match the ambassador class, not the ody as a healer. this ship needs a universal ENS about as bad as the galaxy R does in my opinion.

tvaro has enhanced battlecloak, and is like the brel but better in every way. its also might deserve to be in the list with the top dpsers too, but so does the mogai. all the romulan ships are awesome, except the d'deridx and ha'apax.



the fleet somraw is as good as the fleet patrol, the most lackluster of all fed escorts, but it can cloak. a potent traditional escort. the vetship can be as dangerous and more, and has a battlecloak, but turns quite a bit worse and theres no fleet version, its only available in basic tier 5 form. the pickings here are very slim, far behind the other 2 factions. hell, you could even put the kamarang or fleet vorcha on here.

the fleet corsair is down on hitpoints a bit, but has a hanger and the best station setp there is for healing, matching what the ody can run. great ship, to bad no body plays healing on the kdf, that doesn't already have a tholian carrier

brels got total station customization and an enhanced battlecloak, the original super harasser. or the big fat carrier, with its many troll pets
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# 3
07-09-2013, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
rom
scimitar/Fleet Dhelan/Fleet Ha'feh
fleet haapax
fleet tvaro

the fleet ha'apax is like an ody that can separate but doesn't have a universal ENS, which is very unfortunate, and stupid. not sure what they are saving that station setup for, an even BIGGER flagship? stupid and pointless, this ship can only match the ambassador class, not the ody as a healer. this ship needs a universal ENS about as bad as the galaxy R does in my opinion.
Hm... Perhaps a slightly better healer might be the Ha'nom? It has the ability to run a HE2, HE3, TSS2 and TSS3? Plus it can throw aux2SIF1 to something with an ET1 as well? Add on the ability of the fleet version to run 5 emitter arrays, I imagine the shield heals it can give would be quite potent.

Just a thought.
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# 4
07-09-2013, 08:44 PM
You missed one dontdrunk...

Excelsior, it can hold its own against most ships no problem.

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# 5
07-09-2013, 09:32 PM
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You missed one dontdrunk...

Excelsior, it can hold its own against most ships no problem.
fed cruisers are lol. their dps is basically 0, because its infective
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# 6
07-09-2013, 09:35 PM
Wells > Everything Sci. Including the Besta.
The first we heard of getting new PvP maps "soon" was in August of 2010. We're consistently told something will be coming with the "next" update. Absolutely nothing has come to PvP since launch.

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# 7
07-09-2013, 11:45 PM
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Wells > Everything Sci. Including the Besta.
The Recluse is best sci healer, wells best sci support.
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# 8
07-10-2013, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dontdrunkimshoot View Post
fed cruisers are lol. their dps is basically 0, because its infective
victor is right, the excelsior with an aux2bat build can do a very good dps. Same for the d'kora and the galor, u only need to know how to build them.
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# 9
07-10-2013, 03:22 AM
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victor is right, the excelsior with an aux2bat build can do a very good dps. Same for the d'kora and the galor, u only need to know how to build them.
you dont need to tell the person who originated the modern dps cruiser, who first published the 2 AtB style, that. i used to use them, and they used to be much more deadly. they have been hardest hit by all the recent power creep.
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# 10
07-10-2013, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by praxi5 View Post
Wells > Everything Sci. Including the Besta.
the nebula is better than the wells. i can prove that to you
it's not the ship or the build, it's the atitude
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